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From: BOB HALL Number: 3718
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
BJ>claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
BJ>about it, do you?
Call me, and I'll send you one.
Bob
800-350-3503
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3719
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit in this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3720
To: STEVE HODGES Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SH>Please don't do that Bob. As one of the people who've been around for a
SH>large part of the 8 years this has been running (yep I remember waiting
SH>all week for a couple more messages:-) I would request that you do not
SH>ban ads.
SH>Main reason being that the ads here may be the only ones I see.
no problem. Again, the ads prevail.
BOB
:-)
BTW: How ya been doin?
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3721
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
Will keep them up for you....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3722
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: ECHO INTO ZONE 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> TS> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who
LB>That was not the impression I got from reading a message in this Echo from h
Well you tell Dave that it will remain the same for a while, and be sure
to tell him, I said hello..
BOB
:-)
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3723
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is n
DC>here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
DC>goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
DC>CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has
DC>banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a re
DC>nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3724
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
BJ> often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
BJ> did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
BJ> this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
BJ> to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
BJ> very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
BJ> post to Lee Noga on the topic.
BJ> Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
BJ> months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
BJ> topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
BJ> been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
BJ> in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
BJ> those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
BJ> Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
BJ> Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
Gosh..... where were some of you when I first mentioned the situtation?
Wating for the hanging party, the victory party, or the smoke signals
from all the flames??????
Anyway, thanks BOB
BOB
:-)
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3725
To: MARK GUTT Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: KQ6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am lost as to how to get pass the man with the big eyes.. that would
allow me to continue on the isle of wonder... where do I find this
object..? I have the mint, the flower, the rabbit foot, a poem, a mech.
nightengale and that is about it I think...
Thanks for your help
TLC
Candid Kid out
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3726
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: Pro-Phone V2.2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ref. Pro-Phone I"m looking for a disk set.
I could trade for maybe a printer,HP portable
with disk drive and HP printer.
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From: TRISTAN LOUIS Number: 3727
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/22/93 2:45p
Subj: Re: GATEWAY 2000 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What you may want to look at is what kind of access speed the CD ROM drive
has. I'm in the market for a similar machine and learned on the internet that
the MPC board has come out with a new set of criteria. The new systems will be
MPC2 and will receive accreditation from the board. Here's the minimum
requirements for an MPC2 machine:
486SX-25 or above
SVGA screen
16 bit soundcard, soundblaster compatible, or better (MIDI et al)
DOUBLE SPEED CD ROM
That last one may cost you more right now but it will also last longer as MPC
was not accredited and everybody and their mother is selling so-called MPC
computers. The MPC2 regulation requires accreditation and, as such, all
software available on that new platform will run on a system for it. I would
strongly reccomend looking into it. DAMARK has come out with an MPC2 upgrade
pack (CD Rom and sound card) for 500 bucks.
More later....
tristan@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3728
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/21/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ross -
Thanks for the info. Just a few questions: <1> How fast is a
good data transfer rate from a CD ROM -- as I've never used one
and don't know much about them,... I don't know what is fast and
what isn't. When I know that, I can ask Gateway 2000 about their
CDROM drive's transfer rate and understand it.
<2> Please describe more in detail about the game 7th Guest. Is
it a detective/drama, a funny/action (sierra type), etc. More
detail would be great -- why you like it, specific descriptions
of how it works, etc.
I know it might take a few minutes, but would be really appreciated!
Thanks again!
Neil
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3729
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/21/93 11:13p
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the response. I'm definitely interested. Would the game run on a
386 DX 25 with SVGA? If I don't buy the 486 50v I'd want to upgrade my PC with
a CDROM and 7th Guest sounds like a neat one! You said something about a
video? Is this an instructional/guide video for the game? PLS respond via this
echo! I can send cashier's check payable to you for the $35 plus shipping
(should only be a couple-a-bucks). THX - Neil
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3730
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 7:52p
Subj: GOOD MACINTOSH CDS?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Am about to put a couple more CD rom drives up and want to dedicate
at least one of them to a Mac-oriented disk.
Any suggestions, favorites, warnings?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: DAVID DANKELMAN Number: 3731
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/21/93 10:58p
Subj: Re: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
>SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can
>SR>get much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges
>SR>either for $29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per
>SR>day at Video rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up
>SR>an expensive computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
>SR>they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
>SR>them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Well, some of us just like saying "Hey, look what my computer will do!"
Besides, nasty GIFs are fun to play with and they make great wallpaer.
Dave
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 3732
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 11:14p
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: JAMES WILLIAMS Number: 3733
To: DAVE WONG Date: 09/21/93 11:14p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
DW>CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2 INSIDE,
DW>AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING
DW>DOESNT IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH.
DW>MAYBE, I'M NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
DW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DW> * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
Yea, you got me lost a little there, but thanks anyway. I found a work
around. By getting a Radio Shack 2 RCA plug to Mini, I connected the
drive to a set of small speakers and the sound card thru the Blaster and
my stereo at least this way I have sound. But please send me more info
on changing the audio cable to the adapter card. Gez, don't you just
hate work around :) Thanks all that answered my distress call :)
* OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 3734
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <11-Sep-93 18:16:22> Shawn Fuller (3:770/145) wrote:
SF> Does anyone use the Pioneer DMR600 and 604X on an Amiga?
SF> Or anyone use it with Starnet BBS software??
SF> I am interested to hear anything back on the Amiga side as I would
SF> like to run one with my BBS on an A3000.
SF> Cheers ... Shawn
SF> *FSED91m*
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SF> * Origin: Outerlimits BBS *** (03)3-889-021. CHCH, NZ (3:770/145.0)
Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon. I run
C-net BBS
Jesse
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3735
To: ALL USERS Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.
$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will consider trade.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3736
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB> and mailing address I can send you a list.
I am interested:
Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3737
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EH> I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do
EH> can. Anybody in the North Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd
EH> like to swap for the 7th Guest or a couple of good shareware disks.
EH> - Eric
I don't have anything to swap, but I would be interested in buying.
Contact me here with a price if interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3738
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Day of the Tentacle 30.00
I'll take it. Let me know how you want to handle it.
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 3739
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi James,
I also have a Mitsumi drive and think it's great (for a non-2x speed
drive).
I have mine connected to a SBPRO Deluxe but I think this may help.
I
have the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector from the drive hooked up to the
Mitsumi's
interface card, then hookup the RCA line from the back of the
Mitsumi's
interface card to the Sound blaster's IN line, (I'm not sure your
Sound Blaster
has an IN line), this works great and you only need one pair of
speaker's.
I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector to the
SoundBlaster's
4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a different way to do
this please
let me know.
I hope this helps you Jim, keep us posted!
=Doug=
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3740
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-13-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Chris Wood...
>>
BO>> BO>> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO>> BO>> 216-225-6759
BO>>
BO>> >> Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll
BO>> >> free line? Us folks up here in Canada give you some business
BO>> >> don't we? <grin>
BO>>
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week, but it
BO>> will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out product support
BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends
BO>> in Canada will be able to place an order without any international
BO>> long distance costs.
>>
>> How about 0014 (International Toll-Free from Australia)
>> support.....
>> You have keen prices, but I wouldn't like to get hung on a
>> phone queue waiting to order...... <g>......
>>
We're looking into it and we'll post it as soon as we decide if it would
be worth the investment.
Thank you for your interest !
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3741
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they
>> 1992-1993, mostly 1993 or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992
>> files ???
Mostly 92-93 and very few 91's....
If we can be of any further help, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime.
Hope this helps......
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3742
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO>> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO>> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO>> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO>> That'll get there attention !!
>> I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs
>> disk befor selling it too sysops
I totally agree and we do tell our customers if a cd is BBS ready, even
those like Shareware 1993 - Games 1883 and Windows 1993 ( which we don't
carry ) we explain that these cd's require a lot of work to get them to be
BBS ready, even though they say thier BBS Ready.
>> i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it
>> that sell A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
to make them happy.
Later.....
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3743
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Educational CD-ROM Software, Software for partially Sighted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I work for an Educational Trust fund that is always looking
>> for new software on CD-ROM. Our main requirement is that the
>> software has real classroom value, not just a pretty toy.
>>
>> In particular we are interested in text databases,
>> dictionaries, encyclopaedias etc, that do not use a graphical
>> interface - as certain hardware used for partially sighted
>> students cannot handle GUIs.
We have an author that is currently working on just such a CD!
We'll post the info as soon as it's ready for shipping.
Need any additional information, please netmail us to the address
below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3744
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Thanx Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> THanx i got KQ6 2dya
>> pleasure doing bizzness!
>> cheers
>> l8ta
Glad to hear it!!
Enjoy....
Boris Osadciw
... Wash your car with Blue Wave, Read your Mail with Silver Xpress!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3745
To: POE LIM Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Poe!
On 09-18-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413
PL> wrote:
PL>
PL> > You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
PL> > seeing a CR562B in action!
PL>
PL> I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run
PL> it against my 3401 to rate throughput. And I wonder how
PL> would the CR-503 compare; it would be the easiest solution
PL> as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2
PL> more SCSI devices.
Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll stand
by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the CR-562B/CR563!
Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though - it has
a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
PL> > SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
PL> > option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
PL> > will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
PL> > Haven't been disappointed yet!
PL>
PL> How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying
PL> it's not that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off
PL> with the PAS 16, then others say it's pretty good.
Well, I do believe that the sound output of the PAS in 16-bit mode is a
little better than the SB Pro or 16/16 ASP, but the difference is not
*THAT* great and a poor set of speakers on either card will make it
appear worse than it is!
PL> From memory you may have had the chance to compare the two; just
PL> wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better
PL> off with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new, cheaper
PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3746
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3747
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
BO> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
^^^
Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive say 320ms
in double speed mode?? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3748
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
RE> that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does becom
RE>so!
Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it is
all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom samples
and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is certainly
superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches, is that you
start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL
RE> not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
RE> onboard.....
Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card. No
probs.
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3749
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
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Hi Lee,
With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort to
remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw well
over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3750
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Please send to. Scott Golby 3:713/616 (Fidonet)
or sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Internet)
Thanks.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3751
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW>> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW>> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
RE> What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
RE> getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong
RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know *EXACTLY*
RE> what you're doing!
I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the audio
from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
AW>> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW>> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW>> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW>> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW>> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW>> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW>> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
RE> There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
RE> the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
RE> piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
RE> from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio
RE> CD...
I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable appears to
provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if I unplug that
cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly cut off. This was
my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes
as had been suggested.
RE> What gives??
I have two choices when I want to listen to audio CD's through the 562-b.
Either unplug the cable from the line out on the SB and move it to the jack
on the front of the CDROM drive, or plug a set of headphones into the 562b
jack.
RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
RE> else....
RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
RE> CD Audio loaded....
RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
RE> correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested whether the
second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a male-male connector). I
think I'd be willing to bet dollars that it wouldn't work.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3752
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW>> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW>> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
RE> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
RE> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
RE> set of speakers that will cope!
I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for audio
CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio portable CD
player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
background has such little impact on Window's performance.
The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Regards, Alan
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3753
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/21/93 11:22p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
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Both...I can help you with any size order....Large or Small!!!
Thanks,
Neil
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3754
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 11:22p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
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SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES!!!
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
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KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
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L.A. STRIPPERS (NEW) $44.95 FULL MOTION VIDEO ALBUM(INTERACT)
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $53.48 FULL MOTION VIDEO
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 3755
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/21/93 11:24p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
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Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
m
EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card wit
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of t
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Eric:
The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description of the Tandy and the
LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2 dravers are aviable but
are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a source,keep reading the
echo somebody will have a source. Gil
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From: MIKE ESPOSITO Number: 3756
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:25a
Subj: NEW BBS Refer: NONE
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CALL THE COOL WORLD BBS. LOTS OF FILES GOOD MESSAGE BASES AND BLUE WAVE
MAIL DOOR. THE NUMBER IS 914-928-6090
SYSOP
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 3757
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:53p
Subj: 1993 Time Almanac ??? Refer: NONE
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A few questions for CD-ROM cognoscenti:
1. Anybody stateside know whether the 1993 edition of the
*Time Almanac* disc is out yet, and if so, what its contents
(years) are and who's selling it most cheaply?
2. Are there any other similarly priced mainstream magazines or
newspapers out on disc now? Even with the *very* poor search &
retrieval program on the *Time* discs, I've found them good
research tools, and I just wish other such sources were available
at that price.
3. Any word on whether/when the Encyclopedia Britannica will come
out on CD-ROM?
Thanks much.
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From: BOB ROMAN Number: 3758
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/21/93 9:14p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my SB
AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice and
I too traded it my Sound Blaster v2.0 and got the Sound Blaster Pro
and love it. The Pro will handle all your games and multimedia,
interface with the CD-Rom; all in stereo.
Bob Roman, Oakville, On.
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From: BOB ROMAN Number: 3759
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/21/93 9:18p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a lim Refer: NONE
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SW> I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro is
SW> limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if this
SW> is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic 562B
SW> and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If this
SW> data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
SW> effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Music is played at 150kb. When you have a double spin drive it will
only, and only has to, transfer music at 150kb.
Bob Roman, Oakville, On.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3760
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:31a
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASON Refer: NONE
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> Just pulled out the datasheet from work....
> The only differences listed between the CR562B and the CR503 are :-
What is the DTR on the CR503 (not the Max rate, the CONTINUOUS rate)?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3761
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/21/93 1:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM WITH MAXIMUS. Refer: NONE
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> AF> is the best one that will work with Maximus/2? I have
> AF> been looking at the mitsumi
>Allen, if your running OS/2 you will need a SCSI drive.
There are Mitsumi drivers for OS/2 out there somewhere, per widespread
reports....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3762
To: SCOTT PERRY Date: 09/21/93 1:40p
Subj: LOW QUALITY CDS???????? Refer: NONE
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>Brice, you think VGA spectrum is low quality?
It had WAY too much redundancy for my taste - basically was a less-than 160 Meg
disc in actual effect.
>Check out the SVGA GIF pictures
I did - and I now have almost ALL of them on "other" discs in my collection.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3763
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/21/93 4:05p
Subj: DEALERS WANTED ! Refer: NONE
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>==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
> Susan Burbank
Or any one of about 5 different names so far....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3764
To: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Date: 09/21/93 4:07p
Subj: MULTI-SPIN CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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>for under US$200. There is a much be GM>drive available For around US$250.
This
>drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B
> Where have you seen this Panasonic drive advertised for $250.00?
$249 - CD ROM Source in Indianapolis, (317) 726-0022
I don't remember if this is their "bare" price or their "bundled with CDs"
price, though it DID include the (propriatary interface) controller card.
>Can you use a SCSI interface with the drive
Panasonic is supposedly coming out with a SCSI version of this drive, I have No
hard data on it yet though.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3765
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/21/93 4:11p
Subj: GIFS GALORE Refer: NONE
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> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called GIFs
>Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM?
I have partial descriptions, but it's TBBS specific format (you will have to
edit them for anything else, basically remove some of the data in columns is
all) and I've NOT got very far into the disc so far....
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3766
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/21/93 7:34a
Subj: CD carousels Refer: NONE
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JB> I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that will
JB> holda minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make, model & availability
Call me at 713/265-1010 for information on the OPTI-NET stacked CD players,
SCSI or non-SCSI. JET Computer Services.
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From: PAT RILEY Number: 3767
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 09/21/93 11:55a
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
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JE**I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months old,
**still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell f
**$150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not John, this
**Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
$120.00 ?
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 3768
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:11p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
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Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
be interested to hear from you.
Thanks!
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3769
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/22/93 8:47a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris!
18 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:
CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
Will take it! Need address! 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3770
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/23/93 9:22a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris!
21 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:
CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will take it need address 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3771
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/23/93 6:11p
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Neil!
21 Sep 93, Neil Harfert writes to Pat Rickerson:
NH> Thanks for the response. I'm definitely interested. Would the game run
NH> on a 386 DX 25 with SVGA? If I don't buy the 486 50v I'd want to upgrade
NH> my PC with a CDROM and 7th Guest sounds like a neat one! You said
NH> something about a video? Is this an instructional/guide video for the
NH> game? PLS respond via this echo! I can send cashier's check payable to
NH> you for the $35 plus shipping (should only be a couple-a-bucks). THX -
NH> Neil -+- TBBS v2.1/NM + Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 -
I have a friend that runs it on a 386 seems to be fine he says. The viedo is
about the makings of the game, its real nice. You can send me $40 that will
cover shipping, as it is in a box like the sierra games come in.(viedo is on
VHS)
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3772
To: NIEL EYDE Date: 09/23/93 6:17p
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Niel!
22 Sep 93, Niel Eyde writes to All:
NE> For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
NE> Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
NE> drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
NE> CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
NE> although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way
have
NE> to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
NE> in within a couple of days.
Sure isn't like that here in Texas! (Checked it out today, they thought I was
nuts)
Pat
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3773
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 6:42p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEIL BERGMAN wrote in a message to ALL:
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We
NB> have over 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a calalog:
Dominique Perron
PB # 76012
Aylmer, Quebec, Canada
J9H 4P1
Thx.
Cheers
Dom
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3774
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/21/93 12:12p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
RS>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it
RS>in a caddy.
Yes, and if a meteor hits your house you will regret not buying a house
in a different subdivision. Back it up with facts. How often can one
expect to destroy a disk in a caddyless drive? It is easy to present
"what if" arguments that on the surface seem to have merit. It is not
always so easy to support those arguments with facts. You might argue
that you have never lost a disk using your caddy drive. Big deal, I
have never damaged one and I have never used a caddy drive except for
demos in computer stores. In fact, as I have stated earlier I have been
using music CDs since 1986 and have yet to frag the first one. And that
includes using them in car and portable CD players. These are
conditions much more severe than a computer CDs are ever likely to
experience.
Maybe you can tell me why this echo isn't filled with complaints from
the numerous people buying what you would refer to as "cheap" Mitsumi
drives because their CDs are dying at catastrophic rates. Could it
be because it is not happening? Also you also might want to consider
that the makers of truly expensive CD programs usually offer some type
of replacement policy for damaged disks at a nominal cost. When
purchasing a program you are not just purchasing the media the program
comes on, you are purchasing a license to use the program. Any software
publisher who does not provide support to those ends is definitely not
worthy of my business.
RS>No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are
RS>caddy-less.
True, but why pay 300 for a MPC 1 Sony when the Mitsumi can be had for
100 less and why buy caddies unless they are needed? The Panasonic
562B, a MPC 2 compatible drive, can be had for the same price other
makers of caddy drives charge for a MPC 1 caddy drive. Compare the cost
of a NEC double spin drive to a 562B and you'll find the Panasonic at
half the cost.
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs
RS>that can cost a lot more than $40.
At mail order prices yes, but then again at mail order prices the
average cost of disks the average home user is likely to purchase is
less than $40. Why spend the extra money for the drive and then for a
caddy for each CD unless you really need it?
RS>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive
RS>offers.
Taking a disk out of a CD case, placing it in a caddyless drive and
storing it back into CD case is hardly inconvenient. It takes only a
few seconds and is such a simple task that it can be easily mastered
by all but the physically impaired. All you really need to do is handle
the CD by the edges. If you do accidentally put a thumb print on the
CD, it's not ruined, just clean it. Have you ever heard anyone say
how "INCONVENIENT" using music CDs is and demand the industry return to
vinyl records. Not hardly.
RS>Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch
RS>floppies without worrying about being extra careful.
It is not a matter of being "extra careful" but a matter of exercising
prudent judgment in the handling of your equipment. Again, CDs are not
as fragile as you would lead us to believe. Certainly I would not leave
them laying around outside of the CD case but I also would not leave 5
1/4 floppies laying around without placing them in paper jackets. In
fact, I would not leave floppies laying around at all but would place
then in storage cases. However, if you to treat your equipment in that
manner you certainly should consider buying a caddy drive.
RS>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM
RS>drive unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM
RS>drive very often (and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy
RS>a CDROM drive).
Yes and I don't know of anyone that has died from the lack of owning a
computer either. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't recommend buying one
to anybody that can afford one. Certainly, buying a CDROM will open up
a new world of capabilities for anyone. Just as I would not recommend
that everyone buy a Pentium machine with a 2 Gig HD and a 21 inch
monitor I would not recommend that everyone purchase a NEC multispin
caddy CD drive (I don't have any thing against the NECs so please no
replies from angry NEC owners). I would try to judge their needs, what
they could afford, what is cost effective, and then I would recommend
equipment accordingly.
As I have said before, caddy drives have their place in this world as do
caddyless drives. Certainly if you allow your children to use your
computer without supervision, especially if they are young; if you have
a physical impairment which makes the handling of CDs difficult; if you
pay your secretary minimum wage and she/he is pissed off at you for not
giving her/him what she/he feels they deserve; if you routinely
use your equipment in a careless manner; or if you don't mind spending
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 3775
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/22/93 5:56p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 21 00:12, Chris Donnegan of 1:124/5125 wrote:
CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after a
CD> merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if
CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
CD> Has anyone else heard this?
No. Which number/company did you call? Matsushita Electric company is the
parent company, and it is a division of Matsushita that manufactures the
CD Roms. If you called the vibrator division (or whatever) you might have
gotten ahold of someone that doesn't know what's going on.
Kevin
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3776
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 5:44p
Subj: 10 Line Limit Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>10 line limit in this echo.
Bob,
I apologize for breaking the line limit for advertising...the day after
I posted my ad I received your posting of the rules. I was unaware of
this rule and have no problem with it.
Thanks,
Sam
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From: PAUL PYATT Number: 3777
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/15/93 3:25p
Subj: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Tim Gavin-Wear, Chris Flynn said:
> TG> Can anyone supply me with or point me in the right direction for
> TG> CD-ROM catologues ?
>Leave me your BBS or fax number and I'll send mine.
Can you fax one to 0424 438467 also
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3778
To: JERRY MILLIKIN Date: 09/19/93 3:42p
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jerry!
Please send me more information and catalog!
Joop Stokvis
C/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3779
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/19/93 3:43p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Michellea!
Please send me more information and catalog!
Joop Stokvis
C/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 3780
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/21/93 12:29p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SOU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >The sound galaxy NX pro plus card has two proprietary AT interfaces for both
>
> >Panasonic and Mitsumi drives
>
> Will it run both of those drives at once?
Since the Mitsumi requires a seperate interface card for each drive installed
in a system I doubt that.You may be able to use the SCSI interface at the same
time you have a Mitsumi attached however.
I placed this information in the echo mainly for those with the older Mitsumi
and Tandy drive as this may be a way to get a little more speed from them
being a 16-bit interface.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3781
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/20/93 5:04a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
RF> employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
RF> was getting way too off topic.
> I agree. I'd love to continue over on OS2HW, if you like.
Unfortunately, I don't have easy access... however, this should make you
happy: the MS employee I told you I was arguing with (OS/2 vs. NT) is now
quite upset with me, and has promised to get me an NT demo by an NT
developer should I ever get to Vancouver. Unfortunately, all the demos
in the world don't give me enough RAM and HD space to run it properly...
===========================================================================
(SCSI devices)
> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay
>away from non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to
>dump what one already has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI
>initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
>not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
Yup, so probably the best people for this kind of advice is for new
people who are just about to buy all-new hardware. Regarding CD-ROM
drives, for example, one just has so many more choices with an SCSI
interface.
======================================================================
RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
RF> SCSI if at all possible.
> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one
>upgrades to OS/2, the path is all that much smoother.
Hopefully oneday and SCSI device *and* CD-ROM drive become standard
equipment, sold on all new PCs. But the companies for the last coupla
years have been such bean counters they won't even include 16550AFN
UARTs on their I/O cards... an utterly necessary thing for multitasking
high speed communications that's cheap to do - but they don't!
So whereas we sometimes DO see bundled CD-ROM drives with new systems,
they tend to be non-SCSI, and slow, too. Depressing...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3782
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/20/93 5:08a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anybody out there know of any good OS/2 CD-ROM titles? I've seen one
>in the store (I think it was called 'Hobbes OS/2', and it was only
>$21.00, but I don't know what's on it! It's bad enough that you can't
>find any commercial app's in stores, so I'll support any good shareware
>I can find!
Have it... the version I have (and as far as I know there is only one
version) has SOME decent stuff, but it's all pretty old... for example,
there's an old IBM servicepack for OS/2 2.0, a demo for Describe 3.0
(it's now up to 4.0) and similar stuff.
If you have absolutely no access to OS/2 stuff elsewhere, then I'd say
get it, but otherwise not. And anyone who knows they've made (a) newer
version(s) with newer stuff, please correct me...
And as for getting OS/2 stuff in stores... bug the store people! They
won't know people want it until they're told...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3783
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 5:46a
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I believe)
> that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other things in DOS
> while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
> while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
> DOS......
Unless you've got *great* hardware, though, it'll be quite jumpy when
doing things like disk access.
One great advantage of OS/2 not many people know about is how it can
multi-thread DOS apps. The INT_DURING_IO setting allows for sound
card interrupts to still be serviced during disk accesses, something
regular DOS is incapable of.
This means that even on a slower computer one can still do disk access
and still get *smooth* sound for DOS apps.
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3784
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 7:22p
Subj: QUESTION ABOUT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am going to buy a CD-ROM drive but I have little knowledge about it.
After I have read some advertisment of CD-ROM drive, I have a few question
about what the advertisment said.
The question are -
1. What is photo CD-compatibility ? I found that some drives with
multi-session photo CD-compatibility and some drives with single-session
photo CD-compatibility. What is the different between single and
multi-session ?
2. Is it important that the drive with photo CD-compatibility ?
3. What is xa-ready for CD-ROM drive ?
4. Is it important that the drive is xa-ready ?
5. Some drives stated that it has 660 MB capacity and some has 550 MB
capacity. Can the 550 MB drive play all the cd-rom that same as what
the 660 MB does ?
That 's all.
Thanks in advance who would like to help me.
David
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From: KEN CROWSON Number: 3785
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/21/93 7:30p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please include my name on you mailing list for CD-ROM sales catalogs.
Ken Crowson
1353 Bluebell Way
El Cajon, CA 92021
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3786
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/21/93 5:01p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanx for the info about the CD-ROM, Ive decided to get the faster one!
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From: MIKE GRIFFIN Number: 3787
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 10:43a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adrian!
16 Sep 93 14:08, Adrian Salas wrote to All:
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Do you take major credit cards?
Mike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3788
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW OS/2 CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 300+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st week in October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3789
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3790
To: MAURICE VILLARREAL Date: 09/24/93 2:26p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3791
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 2:41p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
anyway of sending a catalog of prices. i'm very interested.
to: Dave Wong
2504 s ferdinand
seattle, wa 98108
thanks
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3792
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/24/93 2:48p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
well steve, how about sending me a catalog. to: Dave wong
2504 s ferdinand
seattle, wa 98108
thanks
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3793
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/24/93 6:48a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
AB>by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
AB>I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
AB>me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
AB>clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
AB>now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
AB>so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
AB>police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
AB>to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
Okay, well, you aren't done yet.... Did you buy a dress yet? That's how
you use the ATM card. They've got $2,000 in their account. When the
guards do come, go straight to the sket-o-rama. swim up to the ceiling
and to the other side. When the guards come, go down and out. Move on
out to the arcade as fast as you can. Jump in the timepod and zoooom!
Hope this helps,
Henry
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3794
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 12:23p
Subj: cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education (mostly
games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen it is $39,
can anyone out there top that?
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3795
To: BOB ROMAN Date: 09/24/93 10:42p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Okay thanx, but I see in different magazines that SB 16 is a better
technology and all this upgrading to ASP and stuff, well since the price
difference is not too much, I guess I will go with the best they have to
offer, thanx and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: THOMAS KERRIGAN Number: 3796
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/22/93 5:53p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I think that is true, I have same and only Cd-Rom by Matsushita (panasonic and
others have to check) will work. Should be able to contact Sound Blaster
people by number in your docs.
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From: THOMAS KERRIGAN Number: 3797
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 5:55p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sounds good check speed, others you have to match Drive and Sound card very
tricky if in remote rural area.
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From: DAN POLIVY Number: 3798
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 10:17a
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DAn
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3799
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/25/93 6:15p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tarquinn!
24 Sep 93, Tarquinn Watson writes to Dean Mackin:
TW> downloading. I do have a seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the
TW> file to a staging directry on a ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard
How did you set up a staging directory? I have a 6pack and four nodes and
nothing I have tried works too well (large buffers, doors)
Regards
Langston
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 3800
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 8:19p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris --
I have been notified by another vendor that Night Owl 10 will be
released shortly. Is this indeed true? If it is, when do you expect to
have it? Do you have a price yet?
John
Satisfied Customer in NJ
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From: TINA ROCK Number: 3801
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/25/93 12:00a
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
Tina Rock
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 3802
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 1:15p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 3803
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 2:00p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! | | Title:
MS> FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MS>
MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers *
MS> 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats *
MS> Custom-designed Super-VGA interface * Covers every firearm from black
MS> powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
Is this one MAC compatable Mike?
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3804
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/24/93 8:11p
Subj: Re: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Roger Smith to All <=-
RS> I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful. It
RS> is a Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Neat program!!
RS> The program is available from the RSBBS in the Windows file area or is
RS> file requestable as CDLAB100.ZIP. The archive is only about 9K in
RS> size. The Visual Basic dynamic library VBRUN100.DLL is required. If
^^^
(BEEP) WRONG!
Actually, it REQUIRES VBRUN200.DLL to run. I got it from your BBS in one
^^^
try (no problem), installed it (no problem), tried to run it (PROBLEM).
The included READ.ME file specifies *200.DLL and the program refuses to
run with *100.DLL or *300.DLL. Luckily, I had all three. Just thought
you'd want to know.
... "U.S.S. Smith, lower your shields and prepare to be boarded!"
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3805
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/24/93 12:07p
Subj: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful.
RS> a Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel bo
I need this!! I'll be dialing your BBS soonly, thanks!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3806
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/24/93 12:01p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> You're not related to Lee Harvey Oswald by any chance?
Probably no more than you are to Josef Stalin. <EOT>
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 3807
To: LAURENT MADURAUD Date: 09/20/93 9:24p
Subj: démos... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
salut...
liste des dmos à pomper d'urgence :
(ds l'ordre...)
1 amnesia.zip (renaissance)
2 crystal.zip (triton)
3 monstra.zip
4 panic.zip (future crew)
5 rasters.zip
taille des fichiers : entre 800 et 1.4 Mo
certaines st presentes sur ce bbs
y'en a d'autres plus recentes...
allez...a+.
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 3808
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/21/93 3:03p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric,
On 09-13-93 06:52, Eric Staufer writes to All :
ES> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called
ES> GIFs Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM? I called and asked the company but
First of all, I've heard that Walnut Creek had legal problems with this CD
because of copyright violations.
It contains 6,000+ images (on the cover, it says 5,000 but there are more
than 6,000), in 42 categories (art, aviation, cars, flowers, mammals,
people, swimsuit, etc...). There are also viewers for DOS, Amiga, Mac,
Unix, etc... Total 600 MB.
In my opinion, this CD is not very good. Although there are some very good
images, many others are not interesting at all. In fact, it seems that
they tried to fill the disk with all the images they could find (including
many that were copyrighted...). But the CD is cheap, so perhaps it's worth,
but I'm not sure.
Best regards from France !
... Watch where you go...remember where you've been...
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3809
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/24/93 10:40p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
well, I got not too many games, hey you know since I cal different
boards which are netted together, I have to answer some of your message
more than once or some old message just pops up, like this one, anyway I
ain't go much to say. TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3810
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/24/93 9:17a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Cat here,
-> Love to get one of your catalogs!
->
-> C. Alvarez Jr
-> 348 Chutney Dr
-> Orlando, FL 32825-3612
->
-> Thanx and Read Ya Later,
-> CAT
Again,
I am NOT the BBS with the CD-ROM catalogs!!!!! I am requesting one
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
from someone else!!!!!!
John Benjamin
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From: MICHELE STEWART Number: 3811
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/24/93 10:57p
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone
-> Number:
Would you please not address a message to SYSOP in a national echo?
.\\ichele
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3812
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:13a
Subj: Custom cd-rom work Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just a gentle, less-than-ten-line reminder that InfoQuest is the
Price/Performance choice for CUSTOM CD-ROM work in this echo. We offer to copy
your data directly to CD-ROM - .ZIP files, Programs, .GIF's, huge data files,
even a complete backup of a drive. We offer fast turnaround and unbeatable
prices on single and low quantities:
74 Minute Disk - Aprox 680 Megs - $ 105 plus $9 per 250 Megs 60 Minute Disk -
Aprox 580 Megs - $ 85 plus $9 per 250 Megs Additional Copies - $ 36 each
regardless of size. Call InfoQuest and talk to Terry, Charlie, Ken, Chuck,
Mark, or Rocket! (618) 549-3414
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3813
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/20/93 8:24p
Subj: Night owls Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Are there (m)any dupes on earlier NightOwls (2,4,7...) ?
You'll find a few, but much better than their contemporary disks. I haven't
looked at my 2 or 4 in ages, but 5,6,7,8, and 9 are all in continuos use on my
BBS. I figure less than 2% across the series, less than 1% if you omit version
upgrades.
Some disks which compliment the Night Owl with very little duplication are
GigaGold and the Pier Series.
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3814
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 8:53p
Subj: Extra uploads disks - Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
INFOQUEST UPLOADS DISK - If you're looking for fresh, raw files at a good
price, search no more. Most of you have seen our ads to cut custom CD's...
Well last week I finally got time to clean out my own hard drive to CD Rom.
Since the image is now done, I can sell copies in quantity one fairly cheaply!
The disk is 626 Megs, 4700 files, with files from 92 and 93 only. There are at
least 700 uploads from September, and another 400 or so from August. Copies of
the disk are available for $49, VISA/MC/DISC/COD Accepted. Eurocard get lost.
This disk is NOT to be assumed BBS ready - Unless your BBS can index the disk
like RBBS or PCBoard. What it is is RAW FILES - Uploads of all types,
including animations, euromods, and demos of over a meg each. Most of the
files contain a file_id.diz. The disk represents the file upload activity of a
busy medium-sized BBS. I'm still polishing the descriptions, and many of the
over 1000 TrueType fonts and 100 Project Gutenberg files remain to be
described. The text files on the disk still list many '91 files and trash
files which I axed. I'll be sure to send along the latest file lists on floppy
with your order. I'd suggest that this would be a great disk to nab right now,
since it contains all the latest greatest files from this summer, and there
just hasn't been any new CD stuff shipping!
I'd also suggest that you CD-ROM publishers nab one of these hummers, cause I
didn't grab stuff of any of the BIG shareware cd's! This is all fresh material
that you are going to have to pay to download or sit and zip up from author
submissions!
If you want one of these, better call tomorrow cause they are NOT A MASS
PRODUCED disk. Each one is individually burned when ordered, and it's first
come first served. More profitable CD Recording jobs come first - This offer
is for fun! These CD's can be read in any standard drive, including Magnavox
and Mitsumi's. InfoQuest -- (618) 549-3414
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3815
To: WENDELL KENNEY Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: Simms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wendell!
I don't remember if I told you but I sent the money off for the simms, tolk me
a day as missplaced your address. You should be getting it soon, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3816
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/25/93 10:42a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Carl!
Did you get the money yet, have not gotten a reply yet, let me know, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3817
To: JEFF WOERTZ Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: CD player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
Sent money a little while ago, did you get it yet? please reply so I know
whats going on, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 3818
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 3:05p
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div of
ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number, but get
a wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have these titles
and at what prices? I want the following:
Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00
Guiness Disc of Records (Latest)........... 19.00
USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00
Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00
Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00
CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00
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$266.00
I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
Please reply here or call (907) 474-0685 It's Alaska, so check the time
difference and please don't call me before 9:00 A.M. Alaska Time!!!
Thanx
Stu
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 3819
To: BRUCE KRUEGER Date: 09/18/93 9:35a
Subj: Re: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I have a conversion program that will convert the files.bbs to
files.dir or whatever else you need. Send me your address and I can snail-mail
it to you or you can download it from my system (see origin below). When are
you going to make the switch from telegard? I was told that the support went
out the window! Switch to TAG! Running TAG 2.6f and LOVING IT!!!
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From: PHILIP GARRISON Number: 3820
To: BRUCE KRUEGER Date: 09/19/93 12:26p
Subj: Telegard Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry to butt into your Conversation...but couldn't keep quiet seing
that you mentioned the Telegard BBS. Are you running ver2.7? I have
Five CD-Roms hooked into my system and will never let Telegard access
them...Instead i use External File Transfer Doors which are much better.
Anyway...Where do you get your support from? If your support
site is still running near you..can you netmail me the node number?
Thanks...until then..hope to receive feedback from you...See ya.
Philip Garrison..
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From: GERRY BOLGER Number: 3821
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:33a
Subj: CD Rom, Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To All:
New to the CD things of life,
Looking for simple advise how it works, whats involved, costs, requirements.
Any advice considered.
Thanks
gerry
... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: TIM GAVIN-WEAR Number: 3822
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/18/93 2:11p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Paul Pyatt to Chris Flynn <=-
PP> * In a message originally to Tim Gavin-Wear, Chris Flynn said:
> TG> Can anyone supply me with or point me in the right direction for
> TG> CD-ROM catologues ?
>Leave me your BBS or fax number and I'll send mine.
Hi Chris,
I'm also looking for a catologue, my BBS number is below !
Cheers,
Tim.
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From: HOWARD POLLOCK Number: 3823
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 7:45p
Subj: Norton Speedcache & Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings all,
I would like some help relating to Norton Speedcache.
I read in a magazine that the default settings for speedcache are not
the optimum for a cdrom drive (in my case a Mitsumi LU005). Has anybody
experimented with these settings ? If so, please could you let me know
what your findings are.
Thanks for your help.
Howard
Ipswich, UK
■ RM 1.2 00790 ■ No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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From: PHIL BROAD Number: 3824
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:53p
Subj: Buying CD-Roms & Players Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could any dealers out there please send a catalogue to
Phil Broad
3 Paines Close
Pinner
Middlesex
HA5 3BN
ENGLAND
as I'm am very interested in buying a CD-Rom player & Soundcard
Thanks in advance!
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3825
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/24/93 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************
-> I recently opened a CD-ROM store in the Whittier, CA area and now
Marcial what is your voice phone # I have 300+ wholsale titles and one
exclusively "L.A. Strippers". I'd like to call you.
Thanks, Neil Bergman
(310) 652-2858
* RM 1.0 * Eval Day 9 * RoboMail -- Version 1.0 -- Available now!
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3826
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROMS FOR SALE:
UP ALL NIGHT (SHAREWARE) $18.11
MONSTER DISC (2 DISCS) 1.3 gigs of non-duplicated files (1993) $36.23
LOOM $15.00
SUPER SHAREWARE w SUPER BBS $31.00
STORM I,II,III $22.50 (each)
WINWARE III $15.50
KODAK PHOTO CD (MPC) $15.50
WING COMMANDER AND ULTIMA IV $15.50
I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
and mailing address I can send you a list.
Neil Bergman
Phone (310) 652-2858
Fax (310) 652-2608
* RM 1.0 * Eval Day 9 * RoboMail -- Version 1.0 -- Available now!
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3827
To: DAVID ADKINS Date: 09/22/93 7:11a
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
DA> I did and got no response
DA> regards
DA> David
i have not got your letter yet.
Denis
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From: KEITH STEWART Number: 3828
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 10:27p
Subj: PC or MAC or Amiga versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm probably (almost SURELY) showing my ignorance here (VERY PUBLICALLY), but
. . . .
-
I've just put an Apple CD-ROM drive on the network here at Sydney
Uni's Cumberland College MacLab.
-
Are the CD-s 'brand specific' ?
-
Also, (and, yes, I KNOW that this is 'off topic' but I can transfer
Mac .GIF files and turn them into Mac graphics.
What would happen if I downloaded an 'MS-DOS' .GIF file to disk.
(Yes, I can save and swap and convert files.)
Will the 'PC.GIF' files work with a Mac GIF-converter?
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 3829
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/23/93 8:40a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO?
DC>Yes I do Know......
DC>No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
DC>board?
Hi , and Thanx for the info. The reason I wanted both on is that i already have
an nxpro and cd rom on my bbs and just just this other drive and wanted to run
it on the bbs as well .
SOPH......
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3830
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/22/93 9:39p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 09-20-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to
AS> RE> know that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it
AS> RE> does become so!
AS>
AS> Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
AS> wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it
AS> is all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom
AS> samples and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is
AS> certainly superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches,
AS> is that you start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
I'm not tired of the sounds out of the SB 16 ASP yet!
AS> RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is
AS> RE> *STILL* not available and I don't know whether the Roland has
AS> RE> CD-ROM support onboard.....
AS>
AS> Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
AS> avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
AS> NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
AS> SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for CD-ROM
control and the other for sound! With the SB 16 ASP, I have both of those
plus an option to add wavetable synth if it becomes a priority.....
Well, I could only see a 5% difference between an NEC CDR 55 attached
to a PAS16 and the same CD-ROM attached to an Adaptec 1540B... So where's
the gain in the dedicated SCSI for the CD-ROM. I agree that if you already
have a SCSI HDD, then a SCSI CD-ROM is a good idea, but if you have IDE
HDDs as I do, and add the CR562B, then the SB 16 ASP was the way to go!
AS> I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card.
AS> No probs.
Never suggested there would be.... The original thread was based on the
premise of adding wavetable, and I was just saying that the two wave
table cards suggested didn't have the total package that came in the
SB 16 ASP... CD-ROM support/Sound/WaveTable option.... It may not be
the best in class at any of the above, but it works with the CR562B
and that was the main criteria for selection!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3831
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/22/93 9:49p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alan!
On 09-19-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting
AW> AW>> the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is
AW> AW>> playing, I lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording
AW> AW>> purposes =only=?
AW>
AW> RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to
AW> RE> let me know *EXACTLY* what you're doing!
AW>
AW> I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the
AW> audio from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia sound to have come
off the CD-ROM, into memory and then been passed to the sound card via the
Windows MM drivers....
AW> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
AW> CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable
AW> appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if
AW> I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly
AW> cut off. This was my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just
AW> for recording purposes as had been suggested.
Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red & white
connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at the back of the
CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an audio CD! I'm starting to
want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some testing! <g>
AW> RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
AW> RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
AW> RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
AW> RE> else....
AW>
AW> RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
AW> RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
AW> RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
AW> RE> CD Audio loaded....
AW>
AW> RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that
AW> RE> the correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone
AW> RE> who asks!
AW>
AW> This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested
AW> whether the second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a
AW> male-male connector). I think I'd be willing to bet dollars that
AW> it wouldn't work.
Yeah, I'll bet it won't work either! <g>.....
Interesting point seems to be that you have to have the cable from
your CD audio out to SB line in to hear MM sounds and that this same
setup doesn't work for audio CDs.... I suspect that the Windows MM
driver must have some type of mixer built in??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3832
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/22/93 9:54p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Alan!
On 09-19-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW> AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW> AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges
AW> AW>> is quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The
AW> AW>> animal and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
..revisited..
Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe the
classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds and bees
in mono at 22.05!
AW> I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for
AW> audio CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio
AW> portable CD player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing
AW> an audio CD in the background has such little impact on Window's
AW> performance.
The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I think)
2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more than enough
to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
AW> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW
AW> MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just
AW> wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Which one? I'll play it and see....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3833
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/22/93 10:28p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Ashwin!
On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my
AB> SB 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the
AB> CD-ROM output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good
AB> choice and worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the
AB> CD-ROM games I have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please
AB> tell me about these card and good and bad things about these cards.
Help us to help you........
*WHAT* CD-ROM drive do you have?
*WHAT* interface does it use?
Its stupid me rhapsodising about a PAS 16 if you have a Mitsumi CD-ROM
and want to have the sound card control the CD-ROM as well as give you
audio CD play features....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3834
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/22/93 10:33p
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-19-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Paul Swider...
DM> The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and
DM> they have two current updates online T7G124 and T7G130.
DM> Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a STEALTH VRAM in
DM> my system until the CDRom was installed and the only
DM> problem I encountered was when I installed T7G, the video
DM> throughput numbers were 1% of optimum, which was a real
DM> surprise, since the card supports vram.
Does T7G now handle S3 video cards properly? I was in the process of
buying a video card when I borrowed a copy of T7G (I since bought one!)
and the number of people complaining about the slowness of S3 cards
with T7G sent me to buy an ATI Graphiocs Ultra Pro (2Mb VRAM)...
Interesting thing..... The copy of T7G I borrowed was ver 1.04 (I think)
and the copy I bought was 1.2.... Install from 1.04 gave me 86% for the
ATI on the video test and 100% (548Kbps) for the CD-ROM. Install from
1.2 gives 66% for the ATI and 100% (300Kbps) for the CD-ROM (CR562B)....
Someone's moved the goalposts!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3835
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/22/93 10:41p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 09-19-93 Steve Won wrote to All...
SW> I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro
SW> is limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if
SW> this is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic
SW> 562B and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If
SW> this data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
SW> effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Its a dammned lie!
I have two friends with CR562Bs happliy running off SB Pros (both the
older and newer (OPL-3) versions).... As both purchased the CR562Bs
on my recommendation, they'd have strangled me if the SB Pro could
only transfer data at 150Kbps!
Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so of the
speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is the fastest
sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
Cheers!
o
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3836
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/20/93 8:37p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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SM>Tim, I have been looking into 16bit sound/ double speed CD drives for severa
SM>weeks now. After initially favouring the PAS16 + SCSI CD combination I
SM>decided, three days ago, to go for the SB kit.
Yep, me too.
SM>There is a very good review in PC Magazine (May or Jun 93 I think, definitel
SM>after April) on sound boards which rated the PAS slightly ahead of the SB.
SM>But on balance when considering the included software, the cost, the ease of
SM>installation and software compatibility, the SB comes out well in front in m
SM>opinion.
Hmm, I'll have to look for that PC Magazine issue. But I agree that the
SB multimedia kit is more user-friendly than the PAS kit, even if the
card is not as good.
SM>My question to you is where did you find the
price of $799 for this kit. I SM>have checked out all over Sydney and
have found prices ranging from $850 to SM>$1300. I would appreciate it
if you could mail me with any of the details SM>(Shop, address,
phone, prices etc.).
Well, I think you might not have got an earlier netmail so here's this.
I went to Pacific Microlabs today, I -think- available in Sydney and
they gave me a price list.
Discovery Pack $799: Sound Blaster Pro 2, CR-563 CD-ROM, Grandma+Me,
Carmen Sandiego deluxe, Animals MPC, Software Toolworks encyclopedia and
Photostyler Special Edition.
Performance Pack $999: As above but with Sound Blaster 16, microphone,
speakers and Voice Assist voice recognition s/ware.
Premium Pack $1199: As all of above and Macromedia Action!, Authorware
Star, Mathematica Tempra <image processign s/ware>, PC Animate+ and HSC
Interactive.
Pacific Microlabs isn't the cheapest shop around, if you look in
Thursday editions of the Age, the Green Guide included has excellent
sources of cheap multi-media kits. I should think it's available in a
Sydney edition.
SM>Hope this is helpful.
Hope _that_ was helpful! :)
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3837
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/20/93 8:46p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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From: DAVID POMEROY Refer#: 3126
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: cd-roms Conf: (79) CDROM
DP>Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
DP>Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it i
DP>badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good idea,
DP>and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a message. I'
DP>like to hear from you. Also, if you can think of things you'd like to see
DP>covered and a fair joining fee (ie: AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate you
DP>views. If we can get a group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good
DP>bargaining position with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for
Sounds great to me! Most of the messages here I see are from the U.S.
I don't have a cd-rom drive yet, but am vigourously pursuing one! At
best I'll have one next week, otherwise before the end of the year.
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3838
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/20/93 8:49p
Subj: Sb16&Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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From: GABRIEL KLYBER Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Conf: (79) CDROM
GK>I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only works
GK>with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has
GK>anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price was. Any info
GK>would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Gabriel, I was at a computer shop today, and got a few stats on the
Panasonic soundblaster drives.
Panasonic <AT-BUS> CR-563: Access time 350ms, Transfer rate 300KB/sec.
I think the access time is actually lower, about 300ms I think.
There's also the Toshiba T340IB <SCSI-II> access 200ms, Transfer 376
KB/sec. Costs a lot more, ($999 internal) and requires own controller.
HIH -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3839
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 8:59p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: STEVE MANN Recvd: NO
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upg Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously ComputaMart)
RE> in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
RE> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has a Sound
Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have Sound Blaster 16s.
So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow... and I was gonna
buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Could you get back to me on that, please? :)
TIA -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3840
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:18p
Subj: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
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RE> I agree with your comments on the Fusion CD16 kits.... I went out and
RE> got an SB 16 ASP with the Panasonic CR562B and sold my Fusion kit....
RE> *BUT* I loved the PAS16 for its sound (in 16-bit mode, I prefer it to
RE> the SB 16 ASP, but the PAS16 doesn't support a Panasonic AT bus CD-ROM
RE> drive 8^(....) I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
RE> where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
I may be getting a CD-ROM drive _very_ soon, hopefully a SB Premium pack
or Discovery. Anyway, I believe I saw a pair of Labtec speakers at
Pacific Microlabs Doncaster, Vic. <I'm not sure if they're the ones you
want>. Ask Pacific Microlab to see if they have any. Personally, I
prefer my own choice of Uniway speakers, though they cost more.
HIHAL -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3841
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/22/93 9:58p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve.
Today I went looking for CD kits.... Both the shops I went to
didn't have the kit I was interested in <SB CD16 Performance>. However,
I got the prices on a number of other kits, taken from Green Guide last
week.
**-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 6 CDs: $720 (however, I don't know the
specs on the drive except that it's photo-CD ready.)
-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 5 CDs: $790 <?> -Different store.
-Soundblaster Performance <SB16> + 5 CDs: $899
-Multispin Stereo Pack: Panasonic multispin, Laserwave 16 +So Much
Shareware: $750
-Multi-spin pack: Lasermate multi-spin/session, Laserwave Supra 16, 5
CDs: $799
** -Soundblaster 16+doublespeed CD-ROM+5 CDs : $845 (I think it's the
performance pack, if so it's a good price, retails normally about $999)
-Panasonic multi-spin/session, 16bit sound card (but which one), 15<!>
CDs: $1,340 (Expensive, but w/ many CDs.Still, probably won't get this.)
-Panasonic multi-spin, NX Pro + 4 CDs: $895
With so much to choose from, it can be confusing. You might have already
bought a CD drive by now. I've decided to go for a SB 16, I reckon <and
read> that the next wave of sound cards will be 16 bit. The PAS 16 is
nice too, but ppl have told me it's hard to set up and dodgy
compatibility. Double-speed/XA compatible is essential too, so the
Panasonic CR-563 I see is a good drive. The prices above I've marked
with a ** I think are good ones to look for.
If anyone else is reading this, could they reply with comments on their
CD-drive, ie. what are their opinions, good+bad points and what
model/make it is. Also, if you've bought a multimedia pack, respond with
comments too? Thanks to all the people who've already responded! :):)
Lotsa help in deciding what to go for.
Well Steve, hope this info helps (and helps anyone else reading).
-T- PS: Have to get tomorrow's Age! :)
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3842
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/23/93 1:58p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: POE LIM Recvd: NO
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> Homour Poe, humour... I was having a bit of trouble sourcing a second
RE> one at a similar price to the first....
Is the CR562B better or worse than the CR563? I believe the 563 is
included with the Creative Labs multimedia kits? At some places they put
a 562(b) in place of a 563, and sell it for about $120 cheaper, so I
imagine the 563 is better???
RE> Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray loading
RE> SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy of the spex here
RE> and there are only minor differences between the two....
Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all? So
it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre than a
562B and a 563?
Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't even
have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3843
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 10:00p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: 3622
To: TIM WENAS Recvd: NO
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Conf: (79) CDROM
RE>Hi Tim!
Hi Rowan!
RE> Bought a Creative Labs Business kit with the SB 16 ASP and CR563 drive in
RE> May '93 and have been soliloquising about them ever since.... *LOVE IT*
RE> Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is also a
RE> double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost as much for the
RE> PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the entire CL kit and, as its
RE> SCSI, its not as fast.... The PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
RE> doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in T7G), but
RE> as you say, it costs more for less.....
Hmm.... the PAS16 kit is not fast, and costs more for less? I was
looking through a paper, and found PAS16, Philips CD-ROM (not
NEC CDR) photo-cd ready (but I don't know about double-speed), Labtec
speakers and 5 CDs including Comptons MPC encyclopedia for $790, which
seems quite good! I'm seriously considering this kit after finding out
more about the drive. (has to be double-speed!:) Unfortunately, at the
price I don't think it is.) Do you know if Philips CD-ROM drives are
good? The Super Nintendo Super CD is going to be a Philips, after their
break-up with Sony.
Replies welcome from *everybody*! -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3844
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:03p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-Compatible Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: TIM WENAS Recvd: NO
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> Its a little more specific than that!
RE> 1. CPU *MUST* be at least a 386SX/16!
RE> 2. CD-ROM drive *MUST* be capable of sustained 150Kbps transfer rate at
RE> <40% CPU utilisation & have an average seek of <1 second (1000ms).
RE> TW> BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
RE> TW> Labs CD-ROM drives?
RE> Ny advice is *BUY ONE*..... I think its the best thing since the 486DX2/66!
Well, no probs with the CPU.... I got *no idea* about whether the CD-ROM
drive will do all that though. I guess it should. I'll be getting a
CD-rom thing Real Soon Now...
-T-
PS: Just wait for the 486DX3/99! And what about the P5DX2/200?
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3845
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 09/22/93 9:54a
Subj: Aus. 562B Distributor? Refer: NONE
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-=> Stephen Ranson was heard mumbling to Tom Bulum about Aus. 562B
Distributor?<=-
SR> In a message to Poe Lim on 09-15-93, TOM BULUM said>>
TB> ^^^^^
TB>Hiya Poe,
TB> whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting
SR> reply.
TB>
SR> Tom, the Australian CD-ROM Club here in Canberra has the CR562B, and
SR> just for you we will sell it at $450. Call us on 2915258 anytime.
SR> Stephen Ranson
SR> Australian CD-ROM Club
SR> Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
Sorry Stephen,
already have it ordered from someone else. Thanx for the reply.
Tom.
... Sometimes I wake up grouchy. Most times, I let her sleep.
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3846
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:51a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Tom Bulum about Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
RE> Hi Tom!
RE>
RE> On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
RE>
RE> Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
RE> Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
RE> the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
RE> the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Hi Rowan,
it says that is supports SCD-521C/SCD-531C. From this I assume it doesn't
support the CR-562B/CR563 drives. It's 11841 bytes uncompressed.
Tom.
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From: PETER HARRIS Number: 3847
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/24/93 10:45p
Subj: Re: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
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Hi
This is Peter Harris from the Attorney-General's Dept.
The current Attorney's policy is to make law accessible to the public
and we are investigating ways of doing this including cheap
CDROMs. The Qld Govt is even distributing their laws on diskette.
Please feel free to ring me at work 06 2505768 if you want more info. As well
as being a Computer Scientist I am also a solicitor. I am also the founder of
the PC Users group.
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From: ERIC CASSIMATIS Number: 3848
To: GIL MACHIN Date: 09/23/93 7:34p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
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GM> Eric:
GM> The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
GM> older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description
GM> of the Tandy and the
GM> LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2
GM> dravers are aviable but
GM> are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a
GM> source,keep reading the
GM> echo somebody will have a source. Gil
Well, frankly I don't really care if I have to pay mnoney .... getting two SCSI
CDRoms is a lot more money! In reference to the card, you recommend the
"LU002S" driver, not the "xxx5S" version? Well, thank you very much for that
piece of information - it will help!
Eric
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 3849
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 09/24/93 10:59a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
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DM> I run 8 nodes under it and get MASSIVE LOCKUPS for
DM> about 2 seconds every time a disk change takes
DM> place and thats's with a 604x. I am not sure how
DM> much slower a 600 would be. There are no lockups
DM> when the drm is READING the files, only when it
DM> CHANGES CD's. But I think this is more of a DOS
DM> Can anybody tell me, would their be lockups on a
DM> SLAVE computer (running DV) on a network when the
DM> SERVER accesses a drm connect to itself? I have not
I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not suffered any
of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people downloading. I do have a
seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the file to a staging directry on a
ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard that if I connected the drms directly
to the BBS machines it would have been very slow and problems would occur. So
all I suggest is that you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sever.
rgs, Tarquinn.
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3850
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 6:41a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rob Perelman wrote in a message to All:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a
RP> free catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's
Dominique Perron
PB # 76012
Aylmer, Quebec, Canada
J9H 6W6
Thanks!
Cheers
Dom
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From: SCOTT WHARY Number: 3851
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/25/93 11:02a
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got 10 cd caddys fro Better Business Sysyems, Van nuys, CA 91409...
Phone (818--376-1558..
10 caddys were $39.90 + 8.80 freight...that's $3.99 each..
I got the number from the coumputer shopper, ther its an 800 no.
Dont' pay to much..
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3852
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 12:45p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free catalog
RP>to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!! All you have
RP>to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and he will
RP>mail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!! Just respond
RP>privately in this conference or net mail me at 1:202/344.1 with your
RP>information (CD Rom drive type not needed) and we will get it out to you
RP>A.S.A.P.! There is no obligation, so you have no reason not to
RP>respond...I mean hey, it's FREE!!!
RP>cc: JEFF COLLINGWOOD
RP> * QMPro 1.50 4 * <Ctrl><Alt><Del> to read the next message
RP>--- WM v3.01/92-0215
RP> * Origin: High Country East, Ramona, CA (619)-789-4391 (1:202/1308.0)
Send one to Butch
878 Walker ST.
New Orleans, La 70124
Thanks
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3853
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/25/93 12:51p
Subj: Pas16-Scsi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH>What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or SCSI-I
DH>Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM drive
DH>to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
DH> David
DH>--- TMail v1.31.4
DH> * Origin: Dial-A-File BBS - (604) 736-FILE (1:153/776)
Hi David,
I have a PAS 16 and yes it does support CD-ROMS. I am using a Mitsumi
drive and it works great. Although, I did have to purchase a special
cable to hook up the Mitsumi. You can get adapter cables from PAS..just
call the 1-800 sales line they have.
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: ..GRIN -:)ππBORIS OSADCIWππ... Number: 3854
To: SILVER XPRESS....... N Date: 09/25/93 5:01a
Subj: Ff-line Mail system <tm>! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
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From: P P P P P Number: 3855
To: Date: 09/23/93 7:54p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: Number: 3856
To: Date: 09/23/93 7:54p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 3857
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/24/93 8:24p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just wanting to know if there is an Amiga CD ROM, and will software
publishers use it to produce software equivelant to the IBM market. And why is
everyone turning to CD-ROM (besides the wonderful benefits of more memory)?
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 3858
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 8:46p
Subj: Double-spin needs for a game? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double spin drive in
regards to a single spin drive when you are talking about running full-motion
video that is compressed and plays back at whatever frame rate? It seems to me
that it wouldn't make a difference since the compression technique allows the
CD-ROM (single spin) to playback frames at a reasonable speed using a data
transfer rate of 150k bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still
run frame rates at the same speed? What is the difference between a SEGA CD
and the computer CD's?
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From: JOHN LUONG Number: 3859
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 9:20p
Subj: Chinon CDS-431X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
Was wondering if anybody knew what the stats are for a Chinon CDS-431X. I am
thinking of buying one, but would like to know how fast (access time, and
kilobyte/second transfer rate).
Thanks
John
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3860
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/24/93 8:55p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 09-23-93 ROB PERELMAN wrote to ALL:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free
RP> catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!!
Count me in...
David Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt A
Kansas City, MO 66151
Thanks
-> Alice4Mac 2.2b2 E QWK Eval:24Sep93
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3861
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/24/93 9:00p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 09-23-93 ROB PERELMAN wrote to ALL:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free
RP> catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!!
Count me in...
David Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt #A
Kansas City, MO 64151
Thanks...
-> Alice4Mac 2.2b2 E QWK Eval:24Sep93
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3862
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/24/93 7:20a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
-> >>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
-> ----------------------------------------
->
-> How do I order these two? You take plastic
Hi Chris!
Yes, we take VISA or Mastercard! We've sold out those two at that
price, but we can order more in at the regular price if you're
interested. Drop us a line at 306-789-4654.
Thanks
.\\ichellea
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3863
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 11:31p
Subj: PAS16-SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or SCSI-II?
Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM drive
to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
David
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From: STEPHEN GREEN Number: 3864
To: TOMCAT Date: 09/20/93 2:09p
Subj: ADD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOMCAT control message = ADD
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3865
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO=>>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
BO=>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
>> What does bare mean?
You get the drive, RCA jacks, power cord, caddy, drivers and manual.
There is no SCSI controller nor shielded cable in the above package.
If you's like further information, please call us at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3866
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
>> I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B
>> CD-ROM drive with a UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
We have the drivers, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.
>> BTW:
>> I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation.
>> Perhaps there phone number, BBS phone number, FAX
>> Number.......
Ultra Store # 510-623-8955
Compuserve UltraStor ID is 71005,1655
BBS # 510-623-9091
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: RAY DYER Number: 3867
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:10p
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused by
even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
first use?
Reason is that the CD ROM works just fine until certain areas of the disk are
hit. By very close inspection and by moving the disk a certain way, some
scratches can be seen by the light bouncing off the scratch, yet, by looking
straight on to the front, it can't be seen. They are not deep and a fingernail
test can't feel ant resistance (even a fingernail test left behind the same
scratch pattern the test was supposed to detect!)
The problem is that a borrowed CD ROM works fine and has no scratch but the
specs of dust. Reads fine.
I have a Mitsumi drive (005s) and other CD Roms that used to work now suddenly
don't. The scratched are seen to travel from the centre to the edge and
therefore should not pose a problem.
Any other problem of this sort had by others?
The system configuration remained the same. The Lens was dusted and still can't
read the disk but can read the other. The BUSY light flashes during the
read operation and once, DOS reported "Drive not ready error... Abort Retry.."
The only variable seen are the micro scratches only seen by light reflecting
off of them at a certain angle.
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From: SCOTT GIBSON Number: 3868
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:53p
Subj: Re: Special Cd-rom Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have
NB> over 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a copy of your CD catalogue. Thanks!
Scott Gibson
306 Burnwick Rd.
Richmond, VA 23227-1633
... Stop organized crime -- Arrest an IRS agent.
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From: CARL GRAHAM Number: 3869
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 3:26p
Subj: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a 7 disc 93 edition of prophone for sale...
This is a National telephone Directory....Whole U.S. phone Directory on CD.
List for 189.00
Will sell this 7 disc set for 85.00 will include the shipping...
Would consider trades....on database type CD's....
Call Carl 407-291-4687 in Orlando Fl.
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 3870
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 09/24/93 7:35p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> I have for sale: ENCARTA by Microsoft. It is not new. I will sell
RR>it for the first $105 offer I get. The price includes shipping in the
RR>US. Get back to me here and leave a message. I only have one so
$35 including shipping.
I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can buy
new for just a few dollars more.
===
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3871
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 4:50p
Subj: Custom CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D i g i t a l E n t e r p r i s e s c u s t o m
C D R O M s e r v i c e
We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant
CDROM reader.
Price schedule:
---------------
Quantity Price each
-------- ----------
1 $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
*5-9 $65.00
*10+ $50.00
* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
of the SAME disk.
Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method. Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label
service.
Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a
Colorado DJ-20 tape drive. We also support streaming tape drives
that use DC600/6XXXX tape. Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium
of $8/hr of restore time. We Also have in the past, accepted a hard
disk as the method of transferral.
Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard
places on filenames. Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than
A-Z, 0-9 or the "_" underscore character.
We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings
at no additional cost.
Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds. Personal checks must clear our
bank before production begins. Please make your check or money order
payable to "Digital Enterprises". The following signed statement must
accompany all orders:
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I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises
for transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws. The service
that Digital Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as
such they have no knowledge of the contents thereof. I assume
sole responsibility for the contents of said CDROM(S).
Signed:___________________________
Date:______________
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For more information:
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Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP.
For those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the
magic filename "CDINFO".
Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises
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From: LEN EVANS Number: 3872
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 5:05p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
Would greatly appreciate your catalog(s) of available CD-ROMS!
Len Evans
RR # 3
Jasper ON Can
K0G 1G0
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3873
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 1:06p
Subj: HOT NEW PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H O T N E W P R I C E 'S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From Consumer's Club International
On this date 09-24-1993, Pioneer Electronics has just lowered their
price's to us on the following Six Disk Changers. Here is your
opportunity to purchase one of the finest cdrom changers on the market.
Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive - PRICE $ 739.00
Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive - PRICE $1169.00
Visa - MasterCard Accepted - No Surcharge
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: CLAUDIO ROGERIO Number: 3874
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:15p
Subj: CD-ROM 300kb/s & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Queria saber se alguém sabe de um CD-ROM que possa fazer 300Kb/s
e seja XA compatible e tenha interface AT-BUS, para ligar na SB16??
[]'s CLáudio Rogério
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 3875
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:51p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone give me a price quote on a CD-ROM w/World Book Encyclopedia on it?
I'm not interested in any other encyclopedias.
Thanks
njd
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 3876
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 7:01p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can someone give me a price quote on a CD-ROM with World Book Encyclopedia on
it? I'm only interested in World Book, no others.
Thanks.
Nancy
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3877
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/23/93 5:02a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don,
Nice to have you online. Please feel free to add your BBS to the list of
<O>ther BBS's <smile>. Thanks for the kind offer of PR.
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3878
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 5:06a
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Thanks for the info re: So Much Shareware. I agree! That cd is -very- easy
to install under SpitFire <smile>. Am looking forward to getting your CD-Rom
catalog.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3879
To: ED YEE Date: 09/21/93 6:01p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I SPECULATED as to it's support. It would be unreasonable for a medium
similar
>to CD's not to be able to read CD-ROM's.
WORM is a MUCH older technology than CD-ROM (or even Audio CD) technology.
ALso, the similarities are much more APPARENT than actual.
>It's like a high density drive not supporting double density.
Not at all. It's like expecting a CD-ROM drive to read a 5.25" Floppy disk -
the form factor of those two are ALSO the same as 5.25" WORM, after all....
>There should be backward compatibility with older technology.
Then you expect CD-ROM drives to read WORM disks, right?
* SLMR 2.1a * I'm Pink, therefore I'm Floyd....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3880
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/21/93 6:06p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
> RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
>caddy.
If you damage a disc getting it into a caddyless drive, you are MORE likely to
damage it while inserting it into a caddy - those caddies are NOT designed for
easy disc access.
>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can
cost
>a lot more than $40.
Most CD-ROMs on the market sell for under $40 - and the additional protection
claimed for a caddy drive is problematic at best.
>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers.
I find a carry drive to be much LESS convenient than a caddyless drive.
>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
>unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
Or if you plan to use a LOT of different discs, or if you don't SWAP discs
often (like in a BBS), or if you have even average hand-eye coordination,
or....
If you like caddies, by all means use them - just don't expect all of us to
believe the "caddies are better" hyperbole or to appreciate the additional
costs of a caddy drive.
* SLMR 2.1a * Two riders were approaching, and the Wind begin to howl.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3881
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/21/93 6:08p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat...................... Digital
>Dancing.................... 49 Digital Dreams................... Dirty
>Talk......................... 45 Ecstasy Hot Pics................. Erotic
>Encounters.................. 29 Erotic Encounters 2.............. FAO (3 disk
Please fix your format - assuming you haven't already excessively annoyed Bob
with your too-long ads....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulu? I goose it!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3882
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/21/93 6:27p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering
Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next generation"
stuff gets out of the lab....
* SLMR 2.1a * Classic Literature: a book people praise and never read
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3883
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/21/93 7:35p
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
>computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when they can get VHS
tapes
>or magazines much cheaper.
There is typically more than a THOUSAND pictures on the "average adult" CD-ROM
for $40 or less, which is more than the 20 or less magazines you can buy with
the same $40 will give you.
Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
pictures....
* SLMR 2.1a * Love thy neighbor, first make sure hasband is not home.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3884
To: ERIC SCHONNING Date: 09/22/93 2:01p
Subj: CD-ROM MITSUMI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>there is a disc out called The Source Code I believe but have yet to get it.
Source Code CD-ROM by Walnut Creek.
I carry it at $20, shipping included IF prepaid.
I've not had a chance to check it out myself yet, but have seen some good
reviews (and NO bad reviews) on it.
(317) 726-1980 voice [Tu Th 11-8 We Fr 11-6 EST]
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3885
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 3:54p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
> FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
Please to define "C.C.I."?
* SLMR 2.1a * Before, I was the student. Now I am the Master.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3886
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 3:56p
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that claimed
>100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know about it, do you?
I may have a copy of the great "smiley" description file around here somewhere
- if not, ask in the DR_DEBUG echo, a few of the folks there should have a
copy.
* SLMR 2.1a * My heart's in your world tonight.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3887
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/23/93 1:53p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>>BF>from this echo?
>>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral do-gooders
>have once again used their collective might to knuckle under another "public
>forum".
Nope. Has a LOT more to do with an Oklahoma DA that's currently up for re-
election, and a TOTALLY out-of-line Police Department more interested in
publicity than enforcing the LAW.
8-<
> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nah, only about 98% or so....
8-?
* SLMR 2.1a * Bats do it upside down.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3888
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 3:08p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> Like caddyless. There is NO inherent superiority to a
> BF> caddie-based drive, and a
> BF> LOT of inherent limitations and excess costs involved in one.
> That is crap, and we have pointed it out. Caddies prevent dust
A preperly sealed DRIVE prevents more dust than the loosely sealed Caddies can.
>scratches
It is easier to scratch a CD getting it INTO or OUT OF a caddy then it is to
scratch it while putting it in a caddyless drive tray.
>and dropped CD's.
Overstated advantage IF any - I for one have NEVER dropped a CD, in well over
10 years of Audio usage plus 1.5 years of ROM usage. If caddies are SO
superior, why does NO single-disc Audio player use them?
>There is no particular advantage FOR THE DRIVE
>MECHANISM, but for the technology as a whole, there damn sure is.
Not when you actually EXAMINE the so-called advantages, and then factor in the
increased COST due to caddys.
* SLMR 2.1a * Read my lips - No GNU Taxes!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3889
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 3:12p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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> BF> They are also a lot harder to read unless you want to
> BF> waste a LOT of horizontal space to store them in
> Neither do I, but jewel cases clutter just as badly as caddies
Jewel cases don't "clutter" at ALL around here - that's what disc HOLDERS are
for (like the Allsop 25-disc holders I happen to use).
> Neither have I, although I have had some very close calls, until I got
>caddies.
I've had exactly ONE close call - and I was TRYING to break that disc!
> BF> The "damaged disc" argument in 98% of the cases is BOGUS.
> That 2% can easily cost several times the total amount of all the
>caddies one would ever buy.
That 2% should not be using CD's in the first place, as they are EXACTLY the
folks that are going to be likely to damage their ROMs trying to get them in
the caddy in the first place.
> BF> >The time savings
> BF> Is non-existant.
> Is QUITE significant. It takes me less than three seconds to load a
>magazine, while it takes at LEAST ten seconds to load and unload jewel cases.
I have NEVER taken 10 seconds to load/unload from a jewel case - more like 1-2
seconds.
>It took several MINUTES, sometimes, for me to find the right damned jewel case
>when I had to replace a CD.
I'm disorganized, but not THAT disorganized. The case for the disc in use gets
put ON or BY the machine/drive that the disc is in....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3890
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/23/93 4:11p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest!
I suppose my copy of this is incomming?
8-O
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3891
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/23/93 4:12p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
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>would have is the fact it's files.bbs descriptions are too long making it a
>hasstle for Maximus BBS SyOps as myself. Just a little extra time with
macros
>in Qedit.
Or Column mode in WordStar non-doc mode....
* SLMR 2.1a * Work harder! Millions on Welfare depend on YOU!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3892
To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Date: 09/23/93 4:14p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> To: MIKE SHANNON
>I didn't introduce myself but I met you at ONEBBSCON
Mike was at the One Con and I missed him?
RATS!
8-)
Oh well, I did get to meet Lee and Tony and Mark A. and a few others....
* SLMR 2.1a * I don't care about apathy....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3893
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 5:22p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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> Those are ISA boards, not EISA. I believe that a 1542C can be had for
>$150 or a bit less.
Not anywhere I've seen - even the BARE ones are running $200+
> BF> Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus - and given
> BF> that DOS has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY
> BF> getting any benefit out of it under EISA.
> Have you TRIED real world applications, especially multiple I/O
>intensive applications? The performance increase can be more than
significant.
I run one of the more disk-intensive I/O applications around - have done so
under DesqView and DoubleDOS as well as under "bare" DOS - and my IN-2000
gives the SAME or a hair HIGHER performance than my 154x's did. MAY be drive-
limited, I'll grant....
> Simple hard drive performance tests won't show the increase in performance:
>you need to be processing multiple threads.
I was talking about DOS performance. I didn't say ANYTHING about OS/2
performance or *nix performance.
>DOS' ability to do this is FAR from great
Read "non-existant"....
>because DOS is not an Operating System
DOS is in fact an Operating System. It may be a low-end doesn't do as much as
you WANT it to do OS, but that does NOT make it "not an OS" - just "limited".
> BF> > The odds are extremely high that the application
> BF> will run very well
> BF> >indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS,
> BF> directly under an OS/2 VDM.
Nope. The application can be made to run under OS/2, but by SEVERAL reports it
gets a LOT less stable and slower - and it has multiuser built-in ANYWAY, so it
doesn't NEED an "external" multitasker....
> This is just false. In the first place, OS/2's overhead is not that
>significant
It IS noticeably more than DesqView, much less DoubleDOS.
>especially when one is speaking of a serial I/O program plodding
>along at one interrupt every 160,000 cycles or so.
Try one interrupt every 2500 cycles - presuming your BASIC math is correct.
Don't forget, 64 lines NOT 1 line.
>OF course when one
>considers that DOS does not even HAVE support for the serial ports, one
wonders
>why one would ever use DOS in the first place.
Because it provides the minimal functionality needed with reasonable
efficiency, and a LOT of inexpensive hardware is around to run it.
>I have *EIGHT* serial ports,
>all of them just plain, old dumb serial ports with 16550 UARTs, and I can
>transfer at 57,600bps full bore in eight different DOS sessions without a
>hiccup.
TBBS can do 64 such lines using dumb DigiBoards, and the GTek stuff looks like
it might work about as well.
> OS/2 is not a multitasker, it is an Operating System.
OS/2 is a bloated multitasking Operating System.
>DOS is just a kludge of a disk interface utility.
DOS is a minimalist OS that is SMALL - kinda like Unix was in the beginning.
>With no measurable loss in performance, I
>FREQUENTLY am writing messages, while in the background my mailer is
>up/downloading at 1700CPS, concurrently with a backup tape drive doing a full
>backup of my hard drive, music playing from my CD-ROM, and three printers
>running full blast, printing from three separate applications, the
applications
>themselves often having finished their work and been shut down some time ago.
Sounds like what I used to do under DesqView with all of 2 Meg RAM on an
80386-16. Your '486 has how much RAM and runs at what clock speed?
OK, so I prefer to leave the CD-ROM in the BBS machine and play my audio CD's
on a REAL CD player through my stereo system....
* SLMR 2.1a * But I can say goodbye, now that the passion's faded....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3894
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/24/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: Giga Games Refer: NONE
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On 21 Sep 93 12:11:00, I heard Tanya Brock shout to All:
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
TB> be interested to hear from you.
TB>
TB> Thanks!
Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
1-800-638-5757
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From: SID LEE Number: 3895
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:55p
Subj: Toshiba/Adaptec 1510/EZSCSI/Groliers Refer: NONE
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I have recently purchased a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with an
Adaptec 1510 card, Adaptec EZ-SCSI software. I have 2 File
collection CD's and recently bought a copy of the New Groliers
Multimedia Encyclopedia. The drive works flawlesly with the
"files" CD's and can read the Groliers just fine. The Groliers
install from the CD went just fine BUT IT WILL NOT WORK for me
;-) When I attempt to run it I get an message immediately saying
"Creating Database-- xxx k available" and it just stops. I have
to reboot the machine. I run a rather complex setup here (DV and
a BBS with Stacker etc. but I don't have quite enough memory to
run it inside a DV session so I have to stop DV and the BBS when
trying it) but it behaves identically when I strip down the
AUTOEXEC and CONFIG to the state shown below with one exception.
In the stripped down state the machine doesn't actually hang
though the screen behaves like it does when it hangs. The cursor
dissappears leaving the "message" in a box in the middle of the
screen. In that state however I have discovered that if I type
"cls" (I can't see anything on the screen when I do this) the
screen clears and I get a DOS prompt and everything is fine
again.
I have been in touch with Groliers twice and I am persueing that
but I am wondering if anyone here can suggest a fruitful line of
attack on this rather perplexing problem ;-) I have tried
versions 2.10 (in spite of Groliers documentation which says 2.2
or better is required), 2.21 and 2.22 or MSCDEX.EXE. All behave
identically.
The "ugly" details (stripped down version):
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\EZSCSI\ASPI2DOS.SYS /Z /Y /U- /D
DEVICE=C:\EZSCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:ASPICD0
SHELL=COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P
DOS=HIGH
buffers=30
files=40
LASTDRIVE=T:
STACKS=9,256
AUTOEXEC.BAT
@echo off
cls
break on
set verify off
prompt $p$g
c:\cdr\mscdex21.exe /D:ASPICD0 /L:F /M:12 /V /E
PATH=C:\UTIL;C:\DOS
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From: RICHARD MCCARTY Number: 3896
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 4:07p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send to:
Richard McCarty
5150 Mae Anne Ave. #213-115
Reno, NV 89523
Thanks!
... Rule 1: Don't sweat the small stuff. Rule 2: It's all small stuff.
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From: RICHARD MCCARTY Number: 3897
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:07p
Subj: Re: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send your catalog:
Richard McCarty
5150 Mae Anne Ave. #213-115
Reno, NV 89523
Thanks!
... Hey Rocky, watch me pull a tagline outta my hat!
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From: GLENN GARMAN Number: 3898
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 8:44a
Subj: Kings quest 6 Refer: NONE
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TC>Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC>
TC>I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
TC>else has a clue?
TC>
TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
Go get yourself a head of iceberg lettuce...
TC>
TC>2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
TC>is)
Too many steps to put into a message like this. Besides, if you haven't gotten
past the boiling water, you aren't nearly ready to go into the castle...
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From: GLENN GARMAN Number: 3899
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 8:44p
Subj: Special cd-rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUNT PRICES
NB> ***LABOR-DAY SPECIALS***
NB>
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 3
NB> titles in stock.
NB>
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
NB> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LI
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALO
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR P
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NB> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19 Please send me a copy of your CD
price list.
Glenn Garman
308 East Commercial Street
East Rochester, New York 14445
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 3900
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/24/93 8:55a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
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> Well we tried 11 different drives all manufactured June 93 and a
> multitude of motherboards and they all showed not ready reading
> drive faliure on int 24...
>
> Everyone was exactly the same ...
Were you using the same hard drive controller in every case?
Sometimes it's the hard drive controller that can conflict with the CD-ROM
controller just enough to screw up a few things. I'm living with that
problem over here.
TTYL
Eric
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 3901
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/24/93 9:47a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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AS>Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
AS>collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
AS>investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
AS>The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
AS>drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
AS>Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
AS>drives.
AS>Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?
I'd like politely to take exception to your references to
"small time home users with an inexpensive collection of ROMs."
I guess I'd fit your description of a "small time home user."
I only have two machines -- one at the cottage and the Pioneer
604X here at home. It's for personal daily use, not a BBS or
anything like that.
And I admit I'm new to cd-rom. I've only been involved with it
for about four years. And I don't know very much about the
subject, heck I didn't even start writing about it until
1991.
I haven't read much about it -- unless you count books such
as The Brady Guide to CD-ROM and Microsoft's 1989/90 CD-ROM
Yearbook, miles of computer magazines and hours searching
such sources as on-line (and on disc) information bases.
And talking to some of developers of the earliest machines,
mainly from Philips. Even researched the early reasons
for such things as caddies -- according to all the
early sources I could find it was largely to do away
with spindle travel and allow use in standard bays.
My "inexpensive collection of ROMs" only numbers about
150 -- I tend not to keep discs I know I'll never use
again. And I don't even own 7th Guest. I do have two
discs with games on them. I keep them to show kids
what the machine can do.
But I must be "small time" because I've never owned and
never needed a caddy. I've recommended them often to
others, especially institutions such as libraries and
schools, businesses and families with small kids who
have sticky fingers. I think they are essential in
some circumstances.
But not all.
And I haven't noticed thousands of messages complaining
about destroyed discs. The manufacturers I've spoken
to tell me they get very few returns. I've never seen
ads seeking used discs and stipulating that they must
never have been used outside a caddy.
"Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?"
I think you've done that. You've turned it from quasi-
religious debate to merely insulting condescension.
My point is there is a place for both types of machines.
Most industry watchers (including myself) think you'll
be seeing more and more caddyless drives in the future.
That's already started to happen. But likely there will
still be caddy machines aimed primarily at institutional
and industrial users.
Each system has its advantages and its disadvantages, but
caddyless drives are very definitely not just for "small
time home users with an inexpensive collection of ROMs"
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From: LEE SIMANOFF Number: 3902
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 5:47p
Subj: Centris for Sale Refer: NONE
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Any out there want to buy a Centris 610 in mint condition.
The New 040 Chip
8 Megabytes of RAM
230 Megabyte Hard Drive
Internal Apple 300 CD
Lots of Software
In Mint Condition
Only $2000
Write Back
Lee Simanoff
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3903
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/23/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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Neil,
NO problem man, First question, there are two speeds that you need to
look at, the access time and the transfer time. The access time is the
time that it takes for you system to access the CD. This should be
somewhere inbetween 180 and 140 milisec. Anything higher than 180 will
be very noticable. Second is the transfer rate. This is the speed at
which your computer can transfer files or data from the CD to memory or
your harddrive. This speed in a single speed CD should be around
150kbs and for a two speed around 300kps. The new MPC2 standard that
is coming out is 300 so that is what you should look for. Good luck.
Next about The 7th Guest. It is not a comedy but more a mystery novel.
The story centers around mansion that once belonged to this old killer.
YOu as the detective have to solve many puzzles to free the souls of
those killed. Exellent graphics and sould track. It is as close to
virtual reality as one can get on a PC. I rate it an A+ for
innovation!
I hope that this has helped you out.
Ross Focke
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3904
To: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Date: 09/23/93 9:05p
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
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Stephen,
I don't have the price for the Mitsumi Dual but I do for the Creative
Labs new Dual speed! I picked one up at a Software Etc. for only $149
plus tax (alot here in Los Angeles county, grin). I love being able to
play music CD's as I write this note! The beauty of dual comes home to
the ears. Give it a try, after all Creative is the standard.
Ross
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3905
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:09p
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
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Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32
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Last updated: 17-Sep-93
Compiled by: Gary Stimpson
* = new since last update
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1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin)
Akira (Ice)
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release, rumoured
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus)
Biosphere (Bullfrog/Electronic Arts)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media)
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus)
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape)
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles)
Creation (Bullfrog)
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
F117A Stealth Fighter (Microprose) *
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur)
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex)
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records II (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika)
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Innocent Until Caught (Psygnosis) *
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
Jet Strike (Rasputin Soft) *
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis)
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion) - Rumoured
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus)
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Micro Machines (Code Masters) *
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
--=> Continued Next Message! <=--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3906
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:10p
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus)
Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus)
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus)
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod (Millenium)
Robocod James Pond 2 (Millenium) *
Robocod James Pond 3 (Millenium) *
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis)
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat)
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus)
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice)
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Theatre of Death (Psygnosis) *
Theme Park (Bullfrog) *
Trivial Pursuit *
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
--=> The End! <=--
Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3907
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 12:53a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD Price: $25 |
* Fully BBS-ready * 593 megabytes * 6148 files
* File listing available: VAULTGLD.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
2-CD SET: Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: DAVE REED Number: 3908
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/24/93 3:42a
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM WITH MAXIMUS. Refer: NONE
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Hello Brice!
Tuesday September 21 1993 13:19, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Joe Patterson:
>> Allen, if your running OS/2 you will need a SCSI drive.
BF> There are Mitsumi drivers for OS/2 out there somewhere, per widespread
BF> reports....
For running under OS/2, the Mitsumi is NOT the preferred way to go. The SCSI
drives are DIRECTLY supported by OS/2, where the Mitsumi needs 3rd-party device
drivers that don't necessarily work as advertised. The 3rd-party drivers are
for those that were foolish enough to buy the Mitsumi before realizing what a
mistake they made. Any serious OS/2 user is going to buy a SCSI drive.
... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 3909
To: ED DUCHEK Date: 09/24/93 1:24p
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
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ED>I have os/2 arcive cd rom, I didn't care for os/2, like windows better, so n
ED>I have the CD Rom disk. Will trade for another title, clipart or adult
ED>prefered, but games probably ok, or even cash.
Ed, what title? What's on it? How much?
William
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 3910
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/24/93 8:36p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If for instance, I wanted to know all the laws restricting my Constitutional
Rights to keep and bear arms, it would be possible to search and find all the
laws relating to firearms. One could them review them for
un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a particular industry, the
search program would find all conflicting laws concerning your industry. Any
night you were having trouble sleeping, reading them would cerrtainly make
you drowsy. You could quote parts of the law accurately in letters to your
mother. There are many, many ways this could be used. (movie Police Academy)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 3911
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 11:38p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO III Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection, and
this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and easy-to-use interface
on any CD-ROM to date. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses,
or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
archive. Call 306-789-4654 or fax 306-789-8690 for your copy today!
** BONUS ** For $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3912
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 3:36p
Subj: Re: The Black BOX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris!
Well havent seen this echo in a while but has the black box come out yet
and could you send me more info on it my fido netmail # is 1:290/17
and yes Boris does a good job.... just a happy Boris customer....
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3913
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 3:39p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris!
In a message to All <09/22/93> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO> HACKER CHRONICAL - $18
BO> DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.
Boris could you netmail me what is on these two cd roms im interested in
getting these two thanks ..... 1:290/17
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3914
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/24/93 3:45p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Kevin!
In a message to All <09/21/93> Kevin Plummer wrote:
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
KP> --- Squish v1.01
KP> * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570)
Mark Glenn
515-244-2275
fido # 1:290/17
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3915
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HERED Date: 09/24/93 2:41p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ARH=> Hola Adrian.
ARH=> Mi direccion esta en Madrid (España (un poco lejos ¿No?)).
ARH=>Mejor dejame una pequeña lista de precios de CD's, por el mail,aunque
ARH=>si estas interesado en mandarla por correo, te dejo mi direccion:
ARH=> Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero.
ARH=> C/ Valdivieso Nº 7.
ARH=> Piso 1º H.
ARH=> Madrid 28023
ARH=> España
ARH=> Por cierto, ¿De donde llamas?.
ARH=>Saludos.
ARH=> Alex.
ARH=>---
Hola Alex,
Te oy a mandar una lista de precios a Madrid, espero que puedamos ahcer
negocio.
Hasta luego
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3916
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/23/93 8:54a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RF>However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got together
>RF>to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could afford one,
>Now that they are under $200, that's ALREADY true.
Unfortunately, you're mainly talking about "cheapo" drives that are
getting out of date, and when one adds in the cost of the interface...
nope, we're not there yet...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3917
To: BRYAN MITCHELL Date: 09/24/93 5:14a
Subj: Re: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> * Reply to msg originally in CDROM
> -=> Quoting Jeff Hubert to All <=-
> JH> Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
> Had the same problem. Got kinda upset as IBM didn't tell me which
> CD-Rom's were supported when I ordered. Unfortunately I ordered mine
> on CD and had to wait an extra two weeks for the driver before I could
> even set up OS/2. Hope this helps.
This doesn't make sense. If you could use your CD-ROM from DOS (and I'll
assume you could have), then you could have easily made install disks
from disk images on the CD. Then you could have installed OS/2, driver
or no driver.
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3918
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/25/93 10:32p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3919
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/24/93 9:54p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Lou Petralia <=-
BH> The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
BH> Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of
BH> fact I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve
BH> left, don't get on it!" :-)
BH> ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
BH> titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
BH> I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
BH> Bob Hall
BH> not so moderately moderating moderator any more.
Thanks for the response Bob, and I agree and also believe that adult titles
can be discuesed and talked about in good taste without using certain
descriptive terms. Previous talk about them have helped me make decision
to buy certain ones and pass up others rather that take a shot in the dark.
... Have you ever wondered where people in hell tell each other to go?
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From: JEFF JENKINS Number: 3920
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 6:30a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had yet!
it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal
CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's including MPC
encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was on sale, and I got to use my 10%
discound card I got with my Mongomery Wards credit card.
it only cost me 350.00!
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From: PAUL NALEY Number: 3921
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/25/93 10:24p
Subj: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
GM>I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with
GM>UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
GM>BTW:
GM>I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation. Perhaps there
GM>phone number, BBS phone number, FAX Number.......
Ultrastor will not sell you the software directly. Call Hard Drives
International and inquire about the CD ROM Driver software. I bought my
Ultrastor 14F in the kit version and it came with the device driver
software. Hard Drive International has a 800 # and is listed by the 800
information operator or check a copy of Computer Shopper for the phone
#.
* OLX 2.2 * A bird in the bush is better than one just overhead.
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3922
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/26/93 9:51a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
William,
Answering a msg of <24 Sep 93>, from William Schneider, Jr. to Ed Duchek:
I guess you were asking me what title I would prefer for OS/2 Archive?
I would love to get Wing Commander II for it, but lacking that would not mind
any of the clip-art CD's.... or even an adult one..
In those catagories, I am not too picky, others I may be. Hope this answers
your question.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Number: 3923
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 5:02a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-Rom
drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway which is a
caching program. Has anyone got this program and if so do you think it will
make any noticeable difference to my drive?
Regards
Julian.
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3924
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 1:46p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Can you add me to your list? My address is-
PO Box 30,004
Momona
Otago
New Zealand
Thanks...
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3925
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 09/22/93 6:33a
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ok, thanks for the support. At the moment I'll keep your name etc on file.
I'll email you as soon as its ready to go - ie: once I've talked to a few more
people, chatted with some suppliers etc. If I need some help I'll definitely
let you know....
Thanks,
David P.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3926
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
> that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
> turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
>
I'm a starter for that. Now, what order do we do these in? :))
> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
>
Yup...wait & see :)
G.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3927
To: RYAN DAWSON Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: CD+graphics Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>
> Hey there. I don't know where you can get such a program but if you do
> find out, I'd like to know. CD+G discs are fascinating. How can you
> tell if your music disc has graphics on it? I heard that a lot of the
> early compact discs where CD+G but that they weren't all that popular
>
>
You could try and come across a Commodore CDTV machine, it plays the
CD+G and sends the video to TV and plays the audio just like any CD
at the same time. Commodore have stopped making the machine now, but
there will be a few around still. They are now producing a killer
CD game machine (which will do heaps of CDROM/MPEG tricks too) called
the CD32. Look out for it.
Gary.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3928
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>
>
> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
Yes, I am.
> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
Yes, I do. A Texel DM3024 internal SCSI one (I have A3000 machine)
> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
> more
> awesome?????? let me know please.
No the games are still awful, but the PD collections make the purchase
worthwhile. Dont get a drive to play the games solely, or you WILL
be disappointed.
If you want to go CD games, get Commodore's new CD32 machine. It will
blow any CD based game machine into the weeds, and do lots of other
tricks as well.
Cheers, Gary.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3929
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:27p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that it is
almost impossible to undertand them.
Any suggestions?
My system is:
486-25SX, 4Mb RAM
Panasonic Double Speed Cd-ROM Drive
Sound Blaster 16 ASP
I have installed the 7th Guest fix, dated December 1992. Is there are a later
one available that will help my problem? If so, if anyone can give me the node
number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very greatful (preferably v32bis).
Thanks!
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3930
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/23/93 8:12p
Subj: Re: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David
Could I also get one of your catalogs? My address is:
PO Box 30,004
Momona
Otago
Thanks...
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3931
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/25/93 7:50p
Subj: Totally Off-topic!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
On 09-21-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Bob Hall said
to Rowan Evans:-
BH>RE> Sunny Sydney.......
BH>
BH>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamit
BH>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty,
BH>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
BH>the land of enchantment.....
Okay Bob, here's the deal..... You obviously are in dire need of a
mainline fix for your Aussie habit......you get yourself on a plane in
September 2000 to sunny old Sydney, and I'll be your host for the Olympic
games! (They will be happening 30 minutes from my door) TANKS BEIJING!!
I promise I won't talk about adult cds, caddies or adverts!
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From: POE LIM Number: 3932
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/25/93 6:32p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tim,
On Sep 23 13:58 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Tim Wenas of 3:635/550 wrote:
> Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all?
> So it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre
> than a 562B and a 563?
The 562 is 320ms access, with 64K buffer; the 503 is the same, with a 256K
buffer. Both have a sustained trasnfer rate of 300ms, with the burst rate of
the 562 being 2.3Mb/sec, and the 503 being 2.8Mb/sec. The best Panasonic is the
533 (also SCSI), with a 280ms access, otherwise similar to the 503 (look at the
503 a a budget 533 I suppose).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 3933
To: PATRICK FITZGERALD Date: 09/23/93 9:43p
Subj: SB-16 ASP + Panasonic CR- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have an answer to your CD problem
PF>AUTOEXEC.BAT
PF>
PF>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
PF>SET SOUND=C:\SB16
PF>C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /TREBLE:0
PF>C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
PF>LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PF>LH MOUSE/2
PF>@ECHO OFF
PF>PROMPT $p$g
PF>PATH C:\DOS;c:\windows
PF>SET TEMP=C:\DOS
PF>C:\DOS\DOSSHELL
PF>C:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
The line where the MSCDEX command is should be prior to the line which
activates your command shell i.e. DOSSHELL
- best to locate it after the SBCONFIG line.
The line that activates the shell should be at the last line of the shell,
because you would have to exit the shell fully before enabling the CD-ROM
drive.
If you have further trouble with the CD drive, please let me know.
Thanks, Simon :-)
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 3934
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/24/93 12:04a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Paul Collier <=-
PR> Hello Paul!
Hiya Pat!
PC> $450!! I can get it for $A65! I'm glad I don't live in America.
PR>
PR> Well we like it here!
I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it you're
serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd that you can
get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference Library" ? Not a bad
disc, just in case you're hunting around for some good stuff 8-)
BFN......Paul
... To be or....Damn! What was the question?
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3935
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 1:04p
Subj: Zoological Logic Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
On 09-18-93, Mike Shannon elucidated to Brice Fleckenstein:
MS>BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
MS>BF>scratching it!
MS>
MS>Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
ROFL! I take back all the things I used to think about American humour
being an oxymoron! :)
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 3936
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/25/93 8:33p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can
GE> buy new for just a few dollars more.
GE>===
That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
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From: JAY HENRY Number: 3937
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/25/93 10:23p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have
JR> you heard any word on
JR> whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
JR> Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance
JR> CD-ROM drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for
JR> the price of just the drive! ;)
GS> No idea. You're right though, they'd make a lot of
GS> money and that would be
GS> a really smart move. Bet it's IDE! :-) Anyway, best to contact someone
GS> from Commodore or a person who actually owns a CD32. I can relay your
GS> message to the Amiga CDROM echo, maybe your questions will be answered
GS> there. I'll get back to you if I receive a reply.
CD-ROM's are normally SCSI. The CD32 uses a Sony CD-ROM with Commodore
microcode technology - it IS a SCSI device. Why else would AmigaDOS 3.1, which
is included with the CD32, have a SCSI_CD-ROM file system?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3938
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 6:48p
Subj: Re: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it
>> advertised in the latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an
>> ad from Walnut Creek so I would assume that they produced it.
>> Any info would be appreciated and if anyone was it cheaper
>> than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would be interested
>> to hear from you.
>> Thanks!
Yep, we have it!
Give us a call at 800-243-0517 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Price - $25.
Boris Osadciw
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 3939
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/25/93 9:53a
Subj: CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate
-> Analyzer v1.0"
-> Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get
-> hold of it.
-> Even better, do you know if it is on any of the following discs:
-> P.S. In case you can't follow this, I'm after a program that will
-> tell me the % of duplicate files between all of my shareware CD-ROMs.
Hi Russell!
The name of the file by Bob Neal is "CDDA????.ZIP"... and its on
Shareware Studio III. If you'd like a copy, give me a call at
306-789-4654. We'll beat any price in the echo by 10%. By the way, you
may want to use another tool that you'll find on Studio III. There's a
program called "CD-ROM PRO" which allows you to easily keep track of
your CD-ROM library - its easy and quick to find your programs, find out
duplication rates, and does pile more. Look for CDPRO20D.ZIP, also on
Studio III. You'll like it so much, you'll want to register ;-)
Vince
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3940
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:41a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3941
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:44a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I noticed a post a few days ago about the World Book Encyclopedia. Does anyone
have any information on this. Is it available? How much? Etc?
Thanks in advance.
Eugene Fedorowich
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3942
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 8:01a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
I can say that Battlechess (CD Version of course) is absolutely excellent!!
My kids love the tutorial and though the playing ability isn't the greatest
it will be able to beat 95% of the people out there. The sound and graphics
are both superb!!
Well worth the money!
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3943
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Chessmaster 3000 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original msg to: All
Can anyone comment on the Cd version of Chessmaster 3000.What are the
differences or enhancements over the DOS or windows disk versions if any?
Does it have a larger game library? Any comments or observations appreciated.
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3944
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/24/93 9:54p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS
DS> Number:
DS> (904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensac
DS>
DS> --- Synchronet
DS> * Origin: Flamingo Ventures * Pensacola, FL * (1:3612/320)
Did you send this to me?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3945
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:01a
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
> BF> independent companies.
> Mid-July is recent??
It was at the time....
> "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
> companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics type
> connector?".
> The Adaptec techo's answer was -
> "Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't use THAT
defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3946
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/24/93 11:04a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each
an
>BF> >then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash
>BF> >disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save
>BF> >anything above the cost of their purchase.
>That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the CD. You
can
>take the CD out of the tray
Which defeats all of the claimed advantages of using a caddy at all.
>Are you paying $7.50 for caddies?
I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying to was
claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the price MAY
have been reasonable in HIS area).....
>I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I get with
>a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost.
One of the few cases where a caddy is a real advantage, I'll grant. I hope to
have to worry about that problem in a few years....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3947
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:27a
Subj: PANASONIC 562B + SB MONO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
> set of speakers that will cope!
Try running the audio output into a good preamp then into a good Carver amp and
feed that into a pair of Infinity QRS or QLS speakers - THAT should handle your
"loud" requirement easily!
I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE amp/speaker
system....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3948
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:28a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> There are a lot of people with caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear to be
> insecure enough to have to join in to beat on one guy who says *NOT!*....
Two guys, not just one....
8-)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3949
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/24/93 1:06p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>GM>Scott: GM>I have a Mitsumi LU 005S (latest I think?)
>Um, this may sound like a stupid question, but can I assume that the Tandy
>CDR-1000 and the CDROM you have, via the descriptions given below, are the
same
>type and model???
They are not. The Tandy was an OEM version of the Mitsumi LU002 (600ms) drive.
>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to know, so
>that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 ....
Those likely WILL work with your drive....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3950
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/24/93 1:19p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
>blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
You DON'T.
* SLMR 2.1a * C:\WINDOWS> del *.* I feel MUCH better now!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3951
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/24/93 5:38p
Subj: MAKERS OF CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
>there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason
>why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because the makers had
>no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not have to be a full
>list, just a run down of some of the major programs on the CD.
Out of typically 5000 programs, which do you want to list?
Granted, Monster Media includes such a list - in a BOOK that is a lot larger
than the ROM itself....
>would you publish a music CD without the song listing on the back?
It is MUCH easier to print the list of typically 10 (RARELY as high as 20)
songs on an audio disc in the available space....
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3952
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: CROSS POSTS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob:
I figured out why my messages keep appearing in your conference. I have
been posting on two searate boards. Appearantly, on one of them when
I post in one fido area my messages are duplicated to all fido cdrom
areas. I think I have corrected this.
Sorry,
Neil Bergman
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3953
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: GIGA GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in
-> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
-> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated an
-> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I woul
-> be interested to hear from you.
I have it in stock and sell it for $17.50, I also have 300+ titles
at discount prices. Get me your mailing address for a catalog, or
call or fax an order.
Neil Bergman
Shoreline CD-ROM
(310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2608
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3954
To: CHIP NORTH Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: RE: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am posting this to Chip North in the hopes that I can clarify my
methods and intentions in posting my ads, not only to Chip but to all
who may be concerned or interested in this discussion.
First, let me say that after I posted my first ads I received a message
from Lance Stewart, in which he stated that he was glad I had entered
the CD-ROM market and we discussed the general status of drives,
availability, etc. At this time I expressly asked him if he had any
objections to my posting and he expressly said that I should go ahead.
He mentioned that another guy (I assume that to be Wee Yung sp?) had
made bombing runs with his ads and he did not appreciate that. I agree
and I think if you check the frequency of my posts you will find no such
action on my part.
Second, and this is is most important, I post in only 2 areas. One is
PUBLIC; I believe this to be just what it says.....I have as much right
to post publically as anyone else, commercial or not. You can choose to
read or not to read my messages, you can censor them, you can delete
them, that's your business and I respect your right to do so. I also
post in the SBTRADER. I believe this is a commercial or semi-commercial
area, where there may be interest in my product.
Third, I sell a wide range of CD-ROMS, not just adult. I have
encyclopedias, shareware, games as well as adult. I think that some
people who read and monitor these areas may have an interest in my
products. I am local and this is a legitimate business. I could
not advertise this publically if I could fulfill. Further, I place
a disclaimer in every ad which advises the buyer that I require that
they be 18 years or older to purchase any adult product. As the seller
it is incumbent on me to verify this fact. I require a written or verbal
statement, which constitutes a contract on the part of the buyer that
he or she certifies that they are telling the truth with regard to age.
I feel this is the very best I can do to to protect myself and the public from
abuse by minors. My personal feeling is that I will do my best and hope
that parents do their best! My feeling about hard-core adult
material is that I could care less about it, but since people seem to
want and enjoy it...good for them!!
Forth, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to explain my post
regarding "L.A. Strippers". Although this CD-ROM contains "explicit
nudity" it is NOT RATED. It is not just a f-flick transferred to CD-ROM!
It is an interactive title that has great music, and professional
dancers in a carefully scripted production produced expressly for CD-
ROM! I should know because I produced the video, arranged and produced
most of the music, did the post production, worked on the software
development, beta-tested the master disc, supervised the artwork and
approved the final product for release. This title is unique in the
adult market. It is full-motion video (75 minutes), runs at 30 frames-
per-second, has full stereo audio and is interactive. I believe it has
a place in the development of entertainment in digital media.
I could care less about the genre, however, the fact that you are now
able to place 75 minutes of real-time video on a 5" disc only serves to
insure that this format is the wave of the future. As surely as vinyl
records were replaced by analog tape, video tape will be replaced by
digital disc's as the way in which entertainment is delivered to the
consumer. I also feel that when software developers spend this kind of
time, money and creative energy on new product it is healthy for the
computer industry as a whole. Good software drives the sales of
hardware, forces the competition to produce better programs.... and on
and on!!
Finally, If you look at my announcement post for L.A. STRIPPERS, nowhere
do I mention, in overt detail, the content of the program. I do quote
some of the reviews, but I believe the rest is left to the imagination.
I posted this announcement to let the local users know that if they were
interested in this product they could purchase it from me for $44.95,
after October 1, 1995 the price goes up to around $75.00.
I hope this post answers and responds to some of your objections. I have
the greatest respect for your positions, I hope you have the same for
mine.
Sincerely,
Neil Bergman
Shoreline CD-ROM
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From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 3955
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/25/93 10:05a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ronald Keeney,
In a message on 24 Sep 93, at 08:06, you wrote to All saying:
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
RK> If anyone has been running more than 1, on their bbs, I should would
RK> like to know their setup.
Ronald,
We've got two running here without difficulty (thanks to someone in FL who
assisted us!). Below are the lines we use in the config.sys and autoexec.bat
respectively:
Config.sys
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DEV\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20
/T:5 /I:10
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DEV\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:330 /A:0 /M:20
/T:7 /I:11
Autoexec.bat
c:\qemm\loadhi \BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /M:20
Of course, the setting for the drives are up to you and your system, just make
sure each card is set independently of each other (no conflicts).
Hope it helps.
John
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 3956
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:18a
Subj: HEALTH & SAFETY CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rowan
RE> Snail Mail address is coming via netmail....
Got it. I'm putting a package in the mail today, including CDSPEED.ZIP,
as well as text information and diskette-based demos of our CD-ROMs.
RE> I'll advise David More (SYSOP) that I'll have some info on Health &
RE> Safety CD-ROMs for him shortly? <g>
Based on our experience sending CD-ROMs to Australia, (we have about 140
subscribers there, receiving about 500 discs every three months) it
generally takes about a week or two for a package to get from here to
there. That's not too bad, considering it can take that long to mail
something across town. And believe it or not, they usually arrive intact!
RE> Are they available to be set up on the BBS for browsing, etc??
RE> He'll probably ask!
The demos, certainly. I would encourage him to do so. The CD-ROMs
themselves, unfortunately not. There are licensing restrictions that only
allow dial-in access to people affiliated with the subscribing
organization (e.g. staff and students at a university, various locations
within a company etc.).
RE> Cheers & Beers!
We're starting to get out of the beer season and heading toward irish
coffee season. The trees are starting to change (i.e. the colour of the
leaves). We had our first "frost warning" last night. It was 2
degrees C when I got up this morning :( . About 17 and sunny now though.
I haven't hauled out the winter clothes yet, but unfortunately, it won't
be long!
Please write if you'd like any more information about any of the CD-ROMs.
Regards
Chris
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3957
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 2:46p
Subj: USED CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following used cd's for sale:
Software toolworks illustrated encyclopedia for $25
The bible library for $20
OS/2 archive for $18
CD Powerbox for $25
All prices do not include P&H
Trades for other CD's will be consitered.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3958
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/25/93 3:39p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from
LR> non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already
LR> has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a
LR> hit, especially when one does not have to buy an additional hard
LR> drive controller.
LR> RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under
LR> RF> OS/2, go SCSI if at all possible.
LR> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to
LR> OS/2, the path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are
LR> many devices that really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners.
LR> One of the nicest things is that potential conflicts between tape
LR> backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives, scanners, and other devices are
LR> essentially eliminated.
RP> Perhaps I am missing something here. Data transfer under any system is
RP> limited to the maximum amount of data a drive platter can pass under a
RP> head per given amount of time. In other words even though SCSI
You are thinking serially. Think in parallel. While one hard drive is
physically executing a seek, another can be receiving instructions to do a
seek, and another can be cued up to dump data on the SCSI bus. Meanwhile, the
CD-ROM can be also finding a specific sector and loading it into its on board
buffer, while a second CD-ROM is ejecting its cartridge. In addition, the
higher the transfer rate of the bus, the greater the throughput no matter HOW
slow the hardware device. It is true that the effect can be small, especially
under a purely serial OS like DOS, but it is still real.
RP> Then this is the maximum speed the controller can supply CPU provided
RP> there is no controller overhead (It never rains when I go boating
RP> either).
The CPU shouldn't be involved, at all (except as a router/controller).
That is why we use busmastering SCSI controllers.
RP> the same performance depending soley on the physical characteristics of
RP> hard drive.
Nope.
RP> It would seem this performance is hardware based and is
RP> independent of operating system, be it windows/dos, OSII, Unix or
RP> windows NT.
Definitely nope. I can run ten processes under OS/2, each at the same
speed that DOS can run 1 on this machine.
RP> I have seen grown intellectual men brought down to the level of chimps
RP> trying to make an original SCSI device work with a SCSI2 device. And
Then one of the devices was not a standard device. I have a very nice
mix and match of SCSI devices, both SCSI-1 and SCSI-2.
RP> I have seen comercial scanners based on proprietary IDE, Serial (really
RP> slow) and parrallel interfaces.
I don't doubt it, but by far most are SCSI.
RP> But what really confuses me is what does all this have to do with CDROMs
RP> other than some, not all are based on SCSI Interfaces.
The question was, "Why get a SCSI CD-ROM?"
Les
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 3959
To: CORKY CORCORAN Date: 09/25/93 11:34a
Subj: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am having a problem with my Mitsumi CRMC drive and Jones
> in the Fast Lane.
> Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive
> sits with the busy
> lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it
> was because their DMA
> driver was incompatible with ONLY Mitsumi drives. Is
> there some way to
> rectify this problem? Also, is there a way to hook my
Try re-installing the drive and don't use the DMA selection.I have found that
to solve several problems including it uses less memory for the drivers.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3960
To: JON BORTHWICK Date: 09/23/93 11:07a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB>i would like to know where you got your shareware cd and how much it c
JB> please respond asap
Hi Jon. If you will pass your address to me, I will send you a catalog
that will prove that the ads in Computer Shopper cannot compete with us.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3961
To: JERRY JOSEPH Date: 09/23/93 11:09a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JJ> A place called Free Spirit Software for $25. Page 786 of this month
JJ>(October's) Computer Shopper.
Hi Jerry. If you will pass your address to me, I will send you a catalog
that will prove that the ads in Computer Shopper cannot compete with us.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3962
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 7:24p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious
competitor in the CD-Rom market. We now sell over 600 titles in many
different categories for the largest selection available. If you see a
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat
it! Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP
for the list sorted by category.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 3963
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 09/24/93 9:23p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kevin & Chris,
Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and a guy
named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer makes CD ROM
drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase change optical drives, but
no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of buying one, but not if they're out
of the market. Service problems down the road are something I don't need. If
anyone finds out that this info is wrong, let me know.
Scott
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 3964
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:08a
Subj: Cd-rom makers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm a Shareware author and would like to find out the addresses for any
Shareware CD-ROM makers, along with the name of their previous releases, so
that I can send them copies of my programs. If you're a cd-rom publisher,
please send me your company name, address, and a few names of your biggest
CD's. Thanks.
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 3965
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/25/93 6:06p
Subj: Dealers wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For what?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3966
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 09/24/93 11:16p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, aft
KM> CD> merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, i
KM> CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
KM> CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
KM>
KM> CD> Has anyone else heard this?
KM>
KM>No. Which number/company did you call? Matsushita Electric company i
KM>parent company, and it is a division of Matsushita that manufactures t
KM>Roms.
Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer in
the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in New
Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand is
dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in from
Singapore.
KM>If you called the vibrator division (or whatever) you might hav
KM>a hold of someone that doesn't know what's going on.
<G> I wondered what that buzzing sound in the background was! All of the
people I spoke to were sure: no more CD-ROM. My literature arrived today.
No CD-ROM's, only flopticals...
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From: DUHAMEL MIRANDA Number: 3967
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 12:25a
Subj: Cd Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello;
I would like to have a CD catalog, since I would like to purchase several to
run in my BBS. Please recomend some titles..
Ship To;
Duhamel Miranda
10th. St. Blq. E-4
Urb. Altagracia
Toa Baja, Puerto Rico 00949
Regards;
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From: BOB HUNZEKER Number: 3968
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/24/93 12:26a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
>CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram,
>and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck reading disks.
Dont know if i can help, but i have had similar problems with a 562-b and
a SB16ASP, it refuses to see the CD-ROM in DOS and OS/2. the 562 will work
with a pro/2 when i use the sbcd.sys driver from CL, just take out the /t:2
and add /a:0 to the device driver. CL Tech support couls not answer me as
to why it works with the pro/2 and not the 16ASP and they didn't care.
The Tech said they do not support Panasonic drives on SB cards at all only
the repackaged Panasonics that they sell, they were very rude and offered
no help whatsover, didn't even ask about my system or the settings on my
16ASP card, BE WARNED Creative Labs does not care about supporting their
users unless you pay the extra bucks to buy the 563 drive from them. After
4 SB cards this will be my last!
Sorry to be so negative, but thats the way CL was on the phone.
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 3969
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:22a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-18-93 Rowan Evans wrote to David Childress...
RE> The only people who've stopped learning are *DEAD*! <g> Let me know
RE> what
RE> CD-ROM drive, etc you settle on....
RE>
RE> DC> BTW, what part of Australia are you from?
RE>
RE> Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that you're in
RE> California?
Hi Rowan!
Nope, I'm in Florida. Fort Myers to be exact. (on the West coast)
We get a lot of sun ourselves. :-) Australia looks like a wonderful
place! I hope to visit someday <sigh> I sure appreciate your help
on the CD-ROM. My next thing on the wish list is a high speed modem.
I still hope to get a CD system around December. Hope, hope, hope
:-D
TTYL
-=Dave=-
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Internet: david.childress@beachboard.com"
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3970
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/25/93 12:56a
Subj: Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle card
similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and source a
kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
DM> Mention that a "kit" includes a paddle card to Creative and they will
then swear up and down and all around that here on this side of the pond
all their CD Roms are packaged to be only used with the SB's, and there are
no paddle cards to be found. Also, the earlier drivers on the BBS made
reference to the 562b/563, but the later updates now only mention the 563s.
So I guess the marketing department has a little say in what goes on. Also,
I have just been playing with the updated SB16 drivers which now allow dos
apps to share the sound resources with windows, but I have to say that the
update is more that a wee bit of a pain to install (files copy to dir type)
and the doc, well, sparse is the word that comes to mind. And after that is
all said and done then one can look forward to removing and re-installing
the drivers back into windows, which is just so much fun, but one must give
credit where credit is due, and they do seem to do the job quite well,
touch wood. So now if I want to really see how stable my computer is, I can
just load the dos shell, jump to windows, then select T7G and just wait and
see just how much the system will moan and groan (jest teasing, after all
too much moaning and groaning can lead to lots of coffee and grey hairs).
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3971
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 11:42p
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello !
I'm offering a free Cream of the Crop cd with the purchase of a
Shareware Studio II and Up All Night cd. I am overstocked in
these disc and am selling them out for $25 each. In other words
get ALL three disc for $50. !!! But wait! That's not all. I
will pay the shipping and c.o.d. charges too! Call 205-824-2552
before supplies run out.
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From: MARK SAINT Number: 3972
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 1:12a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Leaving address for a catalog....
E-Mail : Mark Saint 1/3607:5
Mailing : PO Box 1335
Cullman, AL 35056-1335
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From: MARK SAINT Number: 3973
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 1:16a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Here you are :
Mark Saint
PO Box 1335
Cullman, AL 35056-1335
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From: KEN BAILEY Number: 3974
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Date: 09/21/93 4:55a
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Steve Daggett, Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero said:
> > Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
> Live or Alive. Why not a GUS card?.
> Best regards. Alex.
> ---
> * Origin: (2:341/12.5)
> 3607/10
Hey Buddy, I have a regular Sound Blaster for sale. Like new, selling because
not cd-rom compatible.... Phone 205-766-6431 (Alabama) for more info. Or
leave message here....
.
.
. Later,
. Ken
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3975
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/24/93 2:59a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TG>BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40
TG>BF> >dollars each an then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You
TG>BF> >would have had to trash disks or 20 percent of your programs
TG>BF> >before buying the caddies will save anything above the cost of
TG>their purchase.
TG>That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the
TG>CD. You can take the CD out of the tray (as you know) so your 2 discs
TG>or 20% theory is not relevant. Are you paying $7.50 for caddies?
TG>That's almost double the going $4.50 rate for quantities of 5 or
TG>more.
TG>I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
TG>get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some
TG>of the older CD's no longer available.
Tom, that quote was actually from me. Those prices reflected what I
could do locally. By mail, the cost of both caddies and disks are less
so a 15 to 20% figure probably fits most home users unless you mail
order your caddies and locally purchase your disks.
The main gist of the original message was that caddies are not a feature
that all users require. In your case, I agree 100% that with small
children using the computer caddies become a necessity. In my case as I
am the only one who uses my computer and with no other factors invovled
which would increase the likelyhood of damaging a CD, they are an
unnecessary expense. Unlike a lot of people I can see both sides of the
coin.
Bob
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From: JEFF CHARLESON Number: 3976
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 11:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Needed! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We need a CD-ROM badly for business use! It has to be at lest 220ms and is
Double-Speed. Anyone know where to get one for cheap, or is willing to sell
one? Please reply... time is running out!!!!
azor Tooth
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3977
To: DUHAMEL MIRANDA Date: 09/26/93 4:47p
Subj: Cd Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM=>Hello;
DM=>I would like to have a CD catalog, since I would like to purchase several t
DM=>run in my BBS. Please recomend some titles..
On it's way!
Thank you for your interest
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3978
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/26/93 5:05p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP=>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DP=>DAn
Got some, 32.00 +s/h. Shipped Priority mail.
SEND Check/Money Order Payable to: Adrian Salas
Please include $5.00 shipping up to 3 CDs Add .50 for each addition.
CA Residents add 7.75% Sales tax.
S.D. ROM CONNECTION 2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
Questions/Orders 619-479-8688 10:am to 7:pm.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3979
To: JULIUS FAJARDO Date: 09/25/93 7:25p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi its Julius from Australia,
-> Couldn't help but overhear(read) on Phantasmorgia
-> Well just wondering, what type of game is it?. Does it support SVGA
-> 400 x 256 colors or better ) What story is behind it etc.
-> Any info would be much appreciated.
-> Also wondering if you know of any of these games for CD as we normal
-> wait a few months before games are released here.
-> Iron Helix, Spaceship Warlock, Screaming Metal, Microsom, Dracula, R
-> Assault, Return to Zork, or any other hot new titles.
-> Hope to here from ya,
->
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Well Julius, Phantasmorgia is supposed to be a SIerra CD only game, I
saw a small preview of it in the SIerra InterAction magazine but do not
know what its about, when I figure out what its about I will tell you,
well a good CD title to add to your list of hot titles would be The 7Th
Guest, you gotta see and play this game, its in SVGA graphics and its an
intense puzzle solving game, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3980
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/25/93 7:26p
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to Paul Swider...
->
-> Ashwin, Thank you for your information. I was responding to a msg Ed
-> Tushar sent (see below). Possibly you sent this reply to him to, I m
-> have missed it.
->
-> AB> -> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
-> AB> ->
-> AB> -> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to liste
-> AB> -> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
-> AB> -> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
-> AB> ->
-> AB>
->
-> I don't have a Mitsumi drive but will try and store that info for
-> future reference. Thanks again for offering your help. >Paul<
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "All true wisdom is found in taglines."
->
-> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
-> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1
No problem Paul, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3981
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/25/93 7:28p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
->
-> AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to repla
-> AB> SB
-> AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the C
-> AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good ch
-> AB> and
-> AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM g
-> AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me abou
-> AB> these
-> AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
-> AB> Ashwin
->
-> Ashwin, I have 2 systems at my house. One system has the SB16 and the
-> has the PAS16. I find that I can play more programs that access sound
-> on the system with the SB16 because it is completely SoundBlaster com
-> The PAS16 is SoundBlaster compatible only not SBPRO compatible. The g
-> is that newer games, multimedia, etc. are now written for PAS16 also,
-> problem is almost gone. Personally, I like the sound quality of the P
-> more than the SB16. The PAS16 has the SCSI interface built in which g
-> possiblities for more drives to be used. If I had to do it again, I'd
-> with the PAS16. I'm sure you'll get other opinions <g>. >Paul<
->
->
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Do not adjust your mind. The fault lies with reali
->
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Well thanx Paul, hey what is the price difference between Sb16 and
PAS16, and I also heard that a lot of old software do not work well the
PAS cards, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: DAN MILLER Number: 3982
To: EDWARD ZDROK Date: 09/25/93 5:50p
Subj: CD ROM drives for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->1:107/925
EZ>I have 2 Toshiba external 600ms CD ROM drives for sale. Includes
>controller cards and cables.
>Asking $175 a piece or $325 for both (+ S/H)
>If interested, please leave voice message at (908) 272-3562.
>Thanks
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Ed, I don't think this is a good deal. You can get a 350ms cd-drive
for about the same price. My suggestion to you is donate it to a worthy
cause so you can get you monies worth!! Don't try to rip off the
public....Prices are always coming down...
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 3983
To: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Date: 09/25/93 9:11p
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Stephen Zappardo wrote to All about New mitsumi 2x speed:
SZ> Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD
SZ> player? It has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the
SZ> new CD player that Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
I don't know what the price is to try to buy one separately, but I got a new
Gateway 2000 system with this CDROM installed this week. Gateway 2000 would
delete the CDROM from the system for $155.
I was considering going with a SCSI interface and the Toshiba 3401, but if
that was all they would give back, I decided to keep it. Performance seems
decent.
It has a proprietary card, so the SB16ASP is just being used for mixing the
sound. It seems to run fine with Video for Windows, etc.
The 7th Guest's setup program rated it at 300K/second (100% of optimal), but
said that my Diamond Viper VLB was only 50% of optimal for video performance.
The sound from T7G is great, and things are noticably faster than with the
MediaVision 150K/second package on a 386/40, but I do notice that the video
does something weird:
About once every second, the video "jumps"--it seems to skip a frame or two.
Maybe this is just how T7G keeps the video and sound in sync, but I was hoping
that with a 486DX2/66, a double-spin drive, and the Diamond Viper video, that
things would be
"fast enough." Apparently, Virgin had an even higher-performance system in
mind when they wrote T7G.
I've also tried MantisCD, and the animations on it are excellent. With the
150K/s system, they were extremely jerky, making the game unusable, but on my
new machine, they are quite smooth. This is probably more a function of CPU
power than CDROM speed.
Gateway 2000 is including the double-spin Mitsumi drive with all of their
4DX2-66V systems, but the lesser systems have the single-spin drive, and they
aren't yet selling the double-spin unit as an add-on, though they expect to
when the supply increases.
--Glenn...
... ... moved into a dark place. You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
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* Origin: Take a "Byte" out of BBSing ... Byte Junction BBS (1:3625/463.0)
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From: SCOTT WHARY Number: 3984
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/25/93 8:45p
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 23 1993 at 22:12, Walter Chisenski of 1:270/211 wrote:
WC> I have only had my computer system/CD-ROM for a month
WC> or so, I would like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
WC> some people will have some answers... First-Where is the
WC> best place to get CD CADDYS from? Here at the local
WC> computer stores ie:Software Etc., Egghead Software. they
WC> seem to run 10.99 to 12.99 each! I've heard you can get
WC> them for 5 to 7.00 each.? Second-Will the programs like
WC> Lightning CD and others that say they speed up your CD-ROM
WC> drive...(software/games/etc.) They say the program will
WC> use a bigger portion of your hard drive to store informaton
WC> on or use more of your RAM or something.? If anyone has
WC> any info on these questions, PLEASE let me know...
WC> Thx- W a l t e r C h i s
WC> e n s k i
I got 10 cd caddys fro Better Business Sysyems, Van nuys, CA 91409...
Phone (818--376-1558..
10 caddys were $39.90 + 8.80 freight...that's $3.99 each..
I got the number from the coumputer shopper, ther its an 800 no.
Dont' pay to much..
--- msgedsq 2.2b
* Origin: Mdtn_BBS Point #30 717.948.0212 (1:270/211.30)
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3985
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 4:01p
Subj: I buy used CDROM Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Makes no difference HOW you CONTACT me....Just Contact me FIRST if you
are selling used CD-ROM programs. Will give you a fair price!
CD-ROM's
878 WALKER STREET
NEW ORLEANS, LA 70124
1-504-283-2087 VOICE
1-504-282-1933 DATA
1-504-282-1933 FAX (if notified)
* SLMR 2.1 * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3986
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 7:03a
Subj: Re: CD carousels Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===========================================================================
Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-23-93 (01:22) Number: 104
From: BORIS OSADCIW Refer#: NONE
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Recvd: NO
Subj: Re: CD carousels Conf: (35) CDROM
BO>The Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604X will work very nicely for you. We currently
>have both units in stock and thier priced at $799 and $1199. respectively.
BO>If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
>anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you further.
BO>Hope this helps...
BO>Boris Osadciw
Boris,
Thanks for this info.
John Benjamin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3987
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/25/93 7:22a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Bob Jackson <=-
>PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest!
BF> I suppose my copy of this is incomming?
Yeah, but in retrospect that was stupid of me. Bob Hall is the
moderator, not me. It's up to him to say when enough is enough.
I agree with your point that it's primarily a matter of personal choice,
NOT a technical issue. That being the case, and this being an echo
primarily for technical discussions (I think), it just seemed it was
getting more bandwidth than it deserved. <EOT>
... Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!! REBEL!!!!!
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3988
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 7:37a
Subj: Re: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> ! Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
MS> (1:3407/101)
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3989
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Debbie Marantz to Paul Swider <=-
DM> I agree, it does seem that most of the windows accelerator cards on
DM> the market give impressive win bench marks but really fall short when
DM> used on a dos applications (especially the S3s). So, for now I am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is NOT entirely accurate! Call Steve Gibson's BBS (714) 362-8848
and download his video benchmark results. You'll find that the S3 '805
blew away everybody in DOS text handling. I use one for Windows and DOS
both and have no complaints. <EOT>
... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: HUGO SHENG Number: 3990
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 1:05p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom driver needed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have a Mitsumi CD-Rom driver program that could perhaps provide me
with a copy? I would appreciate it much.
Thanks
Hugo
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3991
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/27/93 9:14a
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mitsumi always play music, just hookup your earphones or
a 10.00$ speakers (sony) and just play and do whatever else
you want to run. take care, now sound card needed for music. Tnx.
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* Origin: High Tech BBS New Orleans, LA WWIV 5409 -504-885-0165- (1:396/11)
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3992
To: HUGO SHENG Date: 09/27/93 2:21p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom driver ne Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HS>Does anyone have a Mitsumi CD-Rom driver program that could
HS>perhaps provide me with a copy? I would appreciate it
HS>much.
HS>Thanks
HS>Hugo
Sure thing Hugo. You can call me and get the driver or, If I were you I
would look around your area on one of the bigger boards for a file
called MITSUMI.ZIP ....I have them all here though. Voice me at
504-283-2087.
* SLMR 2.1 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: JOHN ROMERO Number: 3993
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/26/93 10:27p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the 7th Guest for sale at $33 including shipping. The game is
like new. Everything included. Let me know if interested. Thanks.
John
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From: MATT VOSE Number: 3994
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 8:40a
Subj: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a CD-ROM that will work with a 386 CPU, 2 MEG ram, DOS 6.0,
Windows. Not looking to spend a fortune. Will pay UPS charges. Guarantee
needed.
-Matt-
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3995
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 4:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Is it true that the MPC-2 standard stipulates a minimum of 320mS seek time??
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3996
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/25/93 4:49p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DW>Anyway, don't you know
>DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
>DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
The evidence suggests that people on large amounts of illegal drugs can still
use BBSs!
I've nothing against adult material (at all!) and an ADULT_CD area IS called
for, but I prefer this area to be technical... you guys (USA) seem to have
all the answers - I like to be able to find them quickly!
--- SLMAIL v2.15B-M (#0369)
* Origin: ─── Redline BBS, Auckland. +64-9-480-1234 V21-V32bis (3:772/50)
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3997
To: JESSE SCHMELZER Date: 09/26/93 9:39a
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon.
JS> I run
JS> C-net BBS
Good to hear it goes OK on the A3000. How does the BBS know what disk to
use in the SCSI.Device. What Software do you use to operate the CD-ROM is
it ASIM?
So I guess your BBS would be a popular one with all that MB/GB's online :-)
Thanks for the info.
Cheers ... Shawn
*FSED91m*
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3998
To: JESSE SCHMELZER Date: 09/26/93 9:46a
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon.
JS> I run
JS> C-net BBS
One more question. Is your BBS multi-Lined? If so do you have any
problems about a user on line 1 downloading a file on cd 1 and a user on
line 2 downloading a file on CD 3.
Does the BBS software handle that part or what happens??
I forsee a CD drive changeing back and forwards trying to read data from
the CD's
Cheers ... Shawn
*FSED91m*
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From: NEIL DANIELL Number: 3999
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/23/93 7:29p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB>CDROMS FOR SALE:
NB>MONSTER DISC (2 DISCS) 1.3 gigs of non-duplicated files (1993) $36.23
NB>LOOM $15.00
NB>SUPER SHAREWARE w SUPER BBS $31.00
NB>STORM I,II,III $22.50 (each)
NB>WINWARE III $15.50
NB>KODAK PHOTO CD (MPC) $15.50
NB>WING COMMANDER AND ULTIMA IV $15.50
NB>I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB>and mailing address I can send you a list.
NB>Neil Bergman
NB>Phone (310) 652-2858
NB>Fax (310) 652-2608
NB> * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 19 * RoboMail -- The next generation QWK compatible re
NB>--- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93
NB> * Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
I would be interested in some of the CDs you listed if they are still
are available. My address is 40 Somes Crescent, Newlands, Wellington.
Thanks.
* SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: EDWARD BLACK Number: 4000
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/22/93 7:41a
Subj: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB}Hi Edward. I will send you out a CD-ROM price list as I can now supply
}CD's just as cheap in most cases as importing them yourselves.
Tks David. Gradually getting to grips with all these conferences. Just
out of curiosity, was my message in the right place and did you notice
it???
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 4001
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/24/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Paul Collier <=-
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
BH> Will keep them up for you....
Thanx. 8-)
BFN......Paul
... Are those cookies made with real Girl Scouts?
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* Origin: The Perth Omen. Western Australia's First BBS (3:690/660)
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4002
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/26/93 2:25a
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegami
BH>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty,
BH>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh fo
BH>the land of enchantment.....
Even better now, we won the right to stage the 2000 Olympics.
You should have seen the Party down at the harbour on the night of the
Olympic announcement, 100,000 people there till dawn.
The whole city is totally stoked.
BH>Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
Forgiven in this case.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4003
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/26/93 2:49p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW>I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not
TW>suffered any of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people
TW>downloading. I do have a seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the
TW>file to a staging directry on a ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have
TW>heard that if I connected the drms directly to the BBS machines it would
TW>have been very slow and problems would occur. So all I suggest is that
TW>you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sever.
Great! You have told me just what I wanted to hear. I guess you are using
604's??? The cost $3500 over here unfortunately *8-( so just one for now. As
for the server, I was going to do that but up until you confirmed it, it was
just an idea. Thanks very much for your help. What networking software are you
using?
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4004
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 10:00a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> I'm not tired of the sounds out of the SB 16 ASP yet!
I wasn't either, when I had my SB pro. I was quite happy with FM. Then I
heard the wavetable soundtracks to a few games that I had already
played. It just blew me away, and I said "I want that!", so I got a GUS.
One good thing about FM is that it offers custom sounds. Most wavetables
don't because the patches are stored in ROM. The GUS however, because it
stores patches on the HD, and caches them into the RAM on the card, can
use custom wavetable patches. I sampled a sneeze the other day, and then
Sequenced a song with it...
RE> The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for
RE>CD-ROM
RE> control and the other for sound!
How many have you got? How many do you need? I have seen some
motherboards with 6 slots, here it *may* be an issue. Mine has 8, and
most of the newer VLB jobs have 8ISA + 2VLB slots. What on earth are you
gona put in 10 slots?
Also, how many Drives can you daisy chain off the SB? 3 isn't it?
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4005
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/26/93 7:34p
Subj: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-23-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Wayne Majors
said to Tony Stott:-
WM>In a msg on <Sep 21 07:58>, Tony Stott writes to Leslie Rhorer:
WM>
WM>
WM> TS> Here's an idea, let's discuss Arabs vs. Jews, or Clinton vs.
WM> TS> Bush, or Windows vs. OS/2 or ANYTHING else which involves
WM> TS> less emotion than the hugely important issue of whether
WM> TS> caddies are good or not... Please, WHO CARES?!!
WM>
WM>This is CDROM echo.. caddies are a CD ROM issue.. I need about 24 of
WM>them for my CD drive... I care.
Wayne, you missed my point; I care about caddies (I have about 30 of 'em
myself), but one or two people here are doing the "King Arthur on the
Crusades" ego trip, whereby anyone who doesn't agree with them is "an
infidel" who should be put to the sword.. My plea was for a big reduction
in the emotion, because it really isn't such a big issue.
I bought a drive which uses caddies because I have a young daughter, other
people are happy without a caddy, that doesn't make either viewpoint
wrong.
Good luck in your search for cheap caddies (PS the Japanese ones are less
likely to play up than the Made in USA ones, in my experience)
---
■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Love is a kind of warfare. - Ovid, 43BC - 18 AD
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4006
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:34p
Subj: Home Addresses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please everyone, think before you post your home address in this echo!
In the last week or so, at least 30 of you have told us all the place
to go to find your computer equipment. I sincerely hope there are no
criminals who read this echo, as you are inviting them into your home.
It is much wiser to use netmail for two reasons...
1. we don't need to know that you want ****'s catalog
2. The crims shouldn't find your address so easily.
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■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Men are such idiots and I married their king. - Peg
Bund
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 4007
To: LEE SIMANOFF Date: 09/26/93 11:34a
Subj: Centris for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any out there want to buy a Centris 610 in mint condition.
>
> The New 040 Chip
> 8 Megabytes of RAM
> 230 Megabyte Hard Drive
> Internal Apple 300 CD
> Lots of Software
> In Mint Condition
>
> Only $2000
I have a freind who would trade a YAESU 767 100 watt ham radio for it.If
interested I will tell him about it.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4008
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/25/93 10:50a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry for lets say butting in, TTYL.
Ashwin
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* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4009
To: HOSER Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in Q:BUY&SELL
-=> Quoting Hoser to Skywalker <=-
Ho> Hey I've got an 1991 Encyclopedia, possibly for sale if the right
Ho> buyer comes along...you interested?
OK, Let's talk. Can you tell me a little about the encyclopedia ie.
name, MPC/MM etc. etc. I'm also looking for Sherlock Holmes Consulting
Detective. Would you know where I could get my hands on this (at a
reasonable price) ?
-Skywalker-
... I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4010
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in F:CD-ROM
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ont Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4011
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in F:CD-ROM
-=> Quoting Maurice Villarreal to Neil Bergman <=-
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me a catalogue.
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ontario
Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4012
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Catalogue Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Vince. I called your company a few weeks back (voice) to
request a catalogue. It has not arrived, probably due to our
wonderful mail service...could you please try again. My address in
below. Thank you.
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls, ONT.
Canada K7A 4S7
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 4013
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/26/93 3:49p
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim Lambert wrote in a message to Jon Borthwick:
JL> Hi Jon. If you will pass your address to me, I will send
JL> you a catalog that will prove that the ads in Computer
JL> Shopper cannot compete with us.
Please send one to
Dominique Perron
PB #76012
Aylmer, Que, Canada
J9H 6W6
Thx
Cheers
Dom
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 4014
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:06a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi yall,
I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Does
anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
Thank's
Roel
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From: BEN QUON Number: 4015
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 7:37p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there, Adrian. I would be interested in receiving a copy of your CD
Catalog.
My mailing address is:
Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, CAN
V5R 1V3
If anyone else reading this echo has a "FREE CD-ROM Catalog" available, can you
mail it to the above address, please?
Thanks.
Ben.
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From: BEN QUON Number: 4016
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 7:42p
Subj: Special cd-rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there, Neil. I'm interested in receiving a CD Price List from you. Can you
please send one to:
Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, CAN
V5R 1V3
Thanks.
Ben.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4017
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/26/93 3:03a
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 21 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> You mentioned you have an Amiga 600HD and an Amiga 1200. What the heck
JR> is an Amiga 600HD, and how does it differ from an Amiga 600?
The A600 and A600HD are basically the same, except the 600HD comes with a
hard drive already installed. And instead of saying `A600' on the computer
case, mine says `A600HD'. Everything else is the same. :-)
Gary
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4018
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/27/93 12:07a
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
24 Sep 93, Paul Collier writes to Pat Rickerson:
PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it you're
PC> serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd that you
PC> can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference Library" ? Not
a
PC> bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some good stuff 8-)
Thanks for the info and I did mean to put in Mr. or Mrs. :)
Sorry
Pat
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 4019
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 10:52p
Subj: Pro-Phone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
full set (6 disks) of national residential phone nnumbers, completely indexed.
This is much more detailed that the usual two disk set often advertized.
V 2.2 mid 1993 edition- $99 - will ship to you.
Regards
Langston
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From: PAUL JANEL Number: 4020
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/25/93 8:19p
Subj: Re: super series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Roberto,
-> This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our
-> 16 page catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
Hi.... could you send me your lastest catalog? If so, could you send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis RD
Hilton N.Y. 14468
Thanks!
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4021
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/26/93 10:31p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>If for instance, I wanted to know all the
JC>restricting my Constitutional Rights to keep and bear arms, it would b
JC>possible to search and find all the laws relating to firearms. One co
JC>review them for un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a par
JC>industry, the search program would find all conflicting laws concerni
JC>industry. Any night you were having trouble sleeping, reading them wo
JC>cerrtainly make you drowsy.
Interesting! And where did you say this was available?
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4022
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/26/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> Next about The 7th Guest. It is not a comedy but more a mystery
RF> novel.
RF> The story centers around mansion that once belonged to this old
RF> killer.
RF> YOu as the detective have to solve many puzzles to free the souls of
RF> those killed. Exellent graphics and sould track. It is as close to
RF> virtual reality as one can get on a PC. I rate it an A+ for
RF> innovation!
I rated it an A+ until I reahed the end. Getting there was everything.
___
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4023
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 12:24p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting NEIL BERGMAN to MARCIAL MORENO <=-
NB> exclusively "L.A. Strippers". I'd like to call you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aside from the obvious, what's this CD supposed to be like?
... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4024
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/26/93 12:31p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tina Rock to Ron Findling <=-
TR> Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
As far as I'm concerned, anything that either (a) has a proprietary
interface - serial or otherwise - or (b) uses some other standard
interface like IDE, for which a line of CD-ROM drives has just been
introduced.
Does this help?
... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4025
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 12:32p
Subj: Re: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Wenas to Rowan Evans <=-
TW> Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't
TW> even have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
Just call Boris Osadciw and tell him you want the meanest bad boy CD-ROM
drive out there. He'll fix you up right!
... "He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again."
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 4026
To: CHARLES STRUSZ Date: 09/26/93 3:03a
Subj: Extra uploads disks - Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Are you checking programs for copyrights, and permission to put them on CD-ROM,
especially since you're selling them?
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 4027
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 5:26p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
BL>
Pete Cresswell
303 Friendship Dr
Paoli PA 19301
At the moment I'm especially interested in MacIntosh and OS2-specific
volumes.
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 4028
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/24/93 12:30p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG >FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
>OVER 200 TITLES
>$10.00 TO $50.00
>SEND TO:
>STEVE GREENO
>1275 E. PRINCE
>TUCSON AZ. 85719
Please add my address for catalogs
ROBERTO REYES
14422 INDUSTRY AVE. SUITE 7-54
LAREDO, TX 78041
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 4029
To: ERIC ENGELMANN Date: 09/22/93 12:54a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EE>EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
>its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
>dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
>searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
>designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
>extensive databases and search programs to help them find
>exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
>534 products and the best directory database and search program
>in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
>the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
>Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
>--- GEcho 1.00/beta
I'm interested in that CD.
Please could you send me more information to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4030
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BO=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *********
-> BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
->
-> What does bare mean?
'BARE' means you get the drive itself, but no mounting case, rails,
drivers, cables, software, etc...
Bill
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From: PHIL TREVORROW Number: 4031
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/26/93 6:32a
Subj: Amiga cd rom.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Most people I know that use CDROM are Sysops. I don't know a single person
who bought one just to play games or whatever. I do know one person who is
going to get one for his personal use but it's part of a package deal he's
getting.
As for why people like them, it's obvious why BBS' use them. On the personal
side, you have things like Encyclopedias, dictionaries, road atlas', games,
etc. Plus CD's are cheaper than disks.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4032
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/26/93 9:29a
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 23 Sep 93 15:05:00, I heard Stewart Rothman shout to All:
SR> I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div
SR> of ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number,
SR> but get a wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have
SR> these titles and at what prices? I want the following:
SR> ****************************************************
Free Spirits Price
====================
SR> Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 $12.00
SR> Guiness Disc of Records.................... 19.00 15.00
SR> USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
SR> Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 19.00
SR> Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 89.00
SR> CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 50.00
SR> ----------- --------
SR> $266.00 $ 214.00
SR>
SR> I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
SR> MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
SR>
How's That for Saving ???
The number is 1-800-638-5757 They do except Visa/Mastercharge
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4033
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/26/93 9:34a
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 25 Sep 93 10:17:00, I heard Dan Polivy shout to All:
DP> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DP>
DP> DAn
Night Owl 9.0 is $25.00
Call 1-800-638-5757
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4034
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 2:17p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Free Spirit Software 1-800-638-5757
====-=-=-=-=-=====-=-=-=-=-======-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-
Aircraft Encyclopedia.............$25.00
America's Premier Shareware.......$19.00
American Phone Book...............$15.00
Busty Babes Vol. 2................$29.00
Compton's Family Choice...........$29.00
Computer Reference Library........$12.00
Desert Storm with Coalion Command.$33.00
Family Doctor.....................$23.00
Gameware Collection...............$19.00
Gif's Galore......................$14.00
Giga Games........................$19.00
GigaByte Gold.....................$29.00
Ham Radio.........................$12.00
Holy Bible & Christian Shareware..$19.00
Jets and Props....................$19.00
Kodak Photo CD Software...........$15.00
Night Owl 8.......................$29.00
Night Owl 9.......................$25.00
Night Owl Graphics Rom............$29.00
North American Fax Book...........$25.00
North American Indians............$25.00
Original Shareware 1992...........$ 9.00
So Much ScreenWare................$15.00
So Much Shareware 3...............$19.00
Southern Beauties.................$43.00
Any Many MANY more Titles...
1-800-638-5757
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4035
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:27a
Subj: new CD format?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been hearing about a new CD ROM audio format called Mini-Disc or
something like that. I realize this is for audio (right now, anyway) but
what are the advantages of this? I see the prices for the players are
VERY high compared to standard audio CD players. What effect will this
have on the data CD industry? Adapters to play the smaller CD's in our
larger readers?
Regards,
Tom
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4036
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 7:30a
Subj: MiniDisc News Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM> Hope this gives you enough info on the MiniDisc state of things,
Simon, so the new Nini Disc will hold less information than the current
5 1/4 CD? What is the advantage of this? Easier to carry in a pocket?
Regards,
Tom
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4037
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/26/93 7:33a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
Ronald, I run 2 internal Mitsumi drives on my Wildcat! 3.60S system
under DOS 5.0 Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT file:
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $_$d $t$h$h$h$_$p$g
PATH C:\DOS;C:\WC30
E:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /E /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /M:1
SET DSZLOG=C:\WC30\WCWORK\NODE1\DSZ.LOG
SET DIRCMD=/OGN
SET WCNODEID=1
CD WC30
ECHO @BELL@ REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! >>\WC30\
WILDCAT
And here is my CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:1 RAM
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @E:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\X00.SYS B,1,57600 E
DOS=HIGH
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:1 /I
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 /RES=18544 /SQF C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:
LASTDRIVE=G
Each Mitsmui requires its own interface card, so make sure you have an
extra slot and IRQ. Any questions, holler back.
Regards,
Tom
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4038
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/26/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 25 Sep 93 07:41:04, I heard Eugene Fedorowich shout to All:
EF> I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
EF> I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
EF> deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
EF> Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
Call Roc, at 1-800-865-5354 Orsend me your Info, and can send you or Fax
your the Info... So I need a Phone number or something to contact you.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4039
To: NANCY DAVIN Date: 09/26/93 10:27p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can anyone give me a price quote for a CD-ROM with (specifically) Wor
-> Encyclopedia?
Make sure you have a good look at the World Book first! I looked at it
and was shocked! No pictures or audio at all. My World Book rep said
that it was one of the best she had seen. ( I dont think she had a
computer though!) If you like text only, World Book is for you, but
several others might interest you more if you review them first.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4040
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/26/93 10:29p
Subj: Prophone 93 (7-Disks) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I say an ad for prophone and was wondering if you had any more. Please
drop me a note with the quanity you have (need aprox 10) and the price
for them.
Thank you.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4041
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have
DR> been looking everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give
DR> me pricing on it too if you can. Thanks in advance.
We have them in stock at $15.00 if you're interested Dave. Call at the
number below to order.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4042
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH>I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table
betwe
RH>many popular CD-ROMs.
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.0"
RH>Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold of
i
That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.
Good little utility!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4043
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
AS>MS>
AS>MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
AS>MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
AS>MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
AS>MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weap
AS>As we Aussies say... Only in America.
Whaaaa? You boys don't have popguns down yonder? What do you use to
chase off the wild dingos? 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4044
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
TB>latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
TB>would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
TB>if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
TB>be interested to hear from you.
Ouch! Don't pay that much!! We have Giga Games in stock at $25. Can
ship same day. Gimme a call if interested!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4045
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/27/93 5:24p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Carl!
Haven't heard any thing yet. Did you get the money?
Will wait for a reply.
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4046
To: BILL JONES Date: 09/27/93 5:24p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bill!
Did you get the money yet? Haven't heard anything from, hope you recived it OK
please reply.
Pat
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 4047
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/26/93 2:21p
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep2614:21, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes:
TB> Hello !
TB> I'm offering a free Cream of the Crop cd with the purchase of
TB> a Shareware Studio II and Up All Night cd. I am
TB> overstocked in these disc and am selling them out for $25
TB> each. In other words get ALL three disc for $50. !!!
TB> But wait! That's not all. I will pay the shipping and
TB> c.o.d. charges too! Call 205-824-2552 before supplies run
TB> out.
Any plans for releasing a updated version of Cream Of The Crop?
-=Stephen=-
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From: DAVID HO Number: 4048
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 9:04p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send the CD-ROM catalog to E-Mail David.Ho@Deepcove.com (internet)
Thanx.
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From: DAVID HO Number: 4049
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 9:07p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send your CD-ROM catalog to E-MAIL David.Ho@Deepcove.com (internet).
thanx.
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* Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915)
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 4050
To: TOM KASHUBA Date: 09/25/93 5:50a
Subj: Quest for Good CD-ROMs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I often wonder why we all lean so heavily toward such low
>quality viewing as currently provided by an MPC system.
>This includes audio, as well. Not to mention the
>vaguaries, difficulties, and many system hiccups that an
>MPC setup involves.
(Many examples given)
Ah, the emperor has no clothes? I agree, because for all the
gee-whiz cheering out there, you're absolutely right, CD-ROM
stuff follows Sturgeons Law to the letter.
Part of the reason has to do with the continual upgrading of
the MPC standards, since we can't expect people to be satisfied
until they can get high resolution, high color, high frame rate
full motion video with great sound, and get a LOT of it, in a
fully interactive way. Unfortunately, that requires just a tad
better (okay, a LOT better) hardware than is commonly available
right now.
Especially memory. When one sees how such an image can take up an
ungodly number of megabytes just for a few seconds worth, one can
see we still have a LONG way to go.
As for the setup difficulties, one of the reasons is OS related -
if you can't get enough memory in DOS, dump it. If Windows can't
multitask what you're trying, dump IT. Go to OS/2 or (ugh) NT, they
have their own setup problems, but at least one doesn't have to worry
about things like getting enough conventional memory...
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X SLMR 2.1a X Whoops, sorry, it's Windows *5.0* that'll be perfect.
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From: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Number: 4051
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 09/27/93 12:56p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
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┌────────────────────┐
╒══╡ From: JEFF JENKINS │ ════════════════════════╡On: 09-26-93╞═══╕
│ └────────────────────┘ │
│ │
│ JJ>I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had │
│ yet! JJ>it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal │
│ JJ>CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's │
│ including MPC JJ>encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was │
│ on sale, and I got to use my 10% JJ>discound card I got with my │
│ Mongomery Wards credit card. │
│ JJ>it only cost me 350.00! │
╘═════════════════════════════════════════════[ End Quote.. ]═══╛
Sorry to break in but;
I just purchased the Panasonic 563 for 379.00, it came with a
16bit sound card, speakers, and 8 cd's, also, a gentleman I spoke
with said he ran the Toshiba 3401, Texcel 3028, and the Panasonic
536, on the same 'puter, and said they were almost identical, I was
going to purchase the Toshiba, but I was told by many people that
there is a minimal performance diffrence, so I went for the
Panasonic, BTW, have you heard of the performance diffrences between
these drives.
-\\ILL-
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From: LEO MULVIHILL Number: 4052
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 8:39p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me your latest catalog
Leo M. Mulvihill
P.O Box 274
Colmar, PA 18915-0274
Wildcelt@delphi.com
Thanks
Leo
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From: LEO MULVIHILL Number: 4053
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 8:49p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me a catalog,
Leo Mulvihill
P.O. Box 274
Colmar, PA 18915-0274
or
WildCelt@delphi.com
Leo
* SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4054
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/26/93 7:36p
Subj: NORTON SPEEDRIVE = NORTON Refer: NONE
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-> I recently ordered Norton Speedcache 4.0 and was surprised to receive
-> package called Norton Speedrive 4.0. Both claim to be able to cache
-> CD-ROM drives.
Norton Speedcache has been renamed to Speedrive. Don't know why, but
when the Symantec rep dropped off a copy it had been repackaged in their
new yellow box with the new name also.
Bill
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4055
To: CHRIS SLOYAN Date: 09/26/93 7:37p
Subj: Advice Please..... Refer: NONE
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-> I just bought the New Panasonic Multi-Spin CD rom kit which
-> included the SoundBlaster 16 card. Has anyone heard anything about th
-> yet. Good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
I like those kits - first ones to come close to competing
performance-wise with the more expensive Media Vision/NEC kits! The
drive's performance puts my old Mitsumi to shame. :(
--- WM v2.09/92-0445
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 4056
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:23a
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From The Dialy Oklahoman Newspaper, September 27, 1993, Page 1:
COMPUTER PORN CASE TRIGGERS LEGAL QUESTIONS
By David Zizzo, Staff Writer
Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm and
confiscated his sophisticated commercial computer bulletin board
system. Authorities allege Davis was selling pornographic computerized
materials on CD-ROM and through files downloaded over phone lines.
Names of everyone who signed onto Davis' bulletin board service, those
who downloaded or uploaded graphic files depicting sexual acts and
those who didn't are in the hands of investigators.
After the arrest, Earl Faubion, a police officer who runs a law
enforcement oriented computer bulletin board system, got numerous
inquiries from worried users. "There are a lot of people concerned,"
Faubion said. Many who used Davis' system for months and have been
asking, "Am I in trouble?" Faubion, who ironically channeled much of
his computer system's private mail through Davis' system before it was
shut down, tells users that's out of his area of expertise.
Bill Holmes, Davis' attorney, said bulletin board system operators fear
their computers will be seized along with the electronic mail inside.
The Davis bust sent a chill throughout the national computer community,
said Jack Rickard, editor and publisher of Boardwatch magazine, a
bulletin board newsletter published in Littleton, Colo. "It's causing
chaos," he said. Rickard said Oklahoma City is being viewed "a little
bit like clown city" in computer circles, since the explicit material
Davis offered can be purchased in nearly every computer magazine and is
carried by numerous bulletin boards. "This is off the shelf," he said.
"It's considered pretty mundane stuff."
Widespread availability is not a defense, however, attorney Holmes
said. The allegedly illegal material was contained on four read-only
memory compact discs and represented only a fraction of information
offered by Davis.
Oklahoma City police referred questions on the Davis case to the
district attorney's office. An assistant prosecutor handling the case
referred questions to District Attorney Bob Macy, who did not return
several phone calls.
The bust will test Oklahoma laws on "community standards" regarding
pornography, said Mike Godwin, attorney for the Electronic Frontier
Foundation. The Washington, D.C., advocacy group is funded by donors
that include large software companies. "When you talk about community
standards, who's the real community?" Godwin wonders. "Is it the city
or ... the community of people on-line?"
Holmes, a former Cleveland County prosecutor, calls Oklahoma's
pornography law "an extremely broad statute." "I'm not sure it wouldn't
include Playboy or Penthouse type publications," he said.
Legal experts say Oklahoma's law appears aimed against sale or
distribution of pornographic material. That leaves some to wonder
whether passing a free copy to a friend constitutes distribution. Part
of the law also appears to make possession a crime, but U.S. Supreme
Court rulings have backed an individual's right to own such material,
Holmes said. Also, free speech guarantees likely would protect those
who use words to describe pornographic acts, he said. Explicit
materials depicting children are covered under much stricter laws, but
Davis' CDs contained no such material.
Apart from the pornography question is the issue of electronic mail
seized with Davis' computer equipment, correspondence most legal
experts say is protected by federal law. Davis' computer was part of a
large electronic mail system that shuttled messages across the country.
Critics of the bust say likely lawsuits over the mail might show the
government "has bitten off more than it can chew." They point to a case
in Austin where the owner of a computer won a $50,000 damage award over
E-mail seized by the Secret Service. The government also was liable
for $1,000 for each user of the E-mail. In Davis' case, that could be
up to 2,000 clients, or $2 million. "The city of Oklahoma City could
be on the hook for that," Rickard said.
Critics also say police over reached in grabbing Davis' entire system,
shutting down his pay-for-play computer service, because of four CDs.
Prosecutors are seeking forfeiture of the system, which includes a 13
gigabyte memory unit and 10 high speed modems. "They don't have to
seize it any more than they have to seize the building when they
confiscate a bookstore," said Godwin of the Electronic Frontier
Foundation.
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From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 4057
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 6:43a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
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I would like to have a list of the cd-rom's
My name and address is:
Jorge Gutierrez
11215 N.W. 6 Street
Miami, Florida 33172-3558
Thank you very much.
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 4058
To: WARREN WILLIAMS Date: 09/26/93 7:55p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you have any CD-ROMs you want to trade? If you have 7th Guest and want to
sell it used, I'm interested in buying it. I got a new one called Walkthroughs
and Flybys, full of FLI & FLC animations, and a few Eurodemos like Future Crew
and Triton stuff. The FLI animations are really nice, and I'm looking for more
discs with just animations on them.
- Eric
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From: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Number: 4059
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/24/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
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CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
--- GEcho 1.00+
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From: JOE HALE Number: 4060
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 5:17p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have two Mitsumi CD-Roms forsale.
$150.00 ea.
Reply in message, or call 513-533-0320 and leave a message.
Joe
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4061
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/24/93 11:05a
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NH>3. Any word on whether/when the Encyclopedia Britannica will come
NH>out on CD-ROM?
I talked to a rep at the Book Sellers convention, who said they had no
plans to do a CD until they could do it "right". Totally ut to date
etc.
My personal opinion is that Britanica has so many involved in selling
the paper versions that they can't afford to curtail those sales with
a CD set.
Think about it, how many library's would buy the obsolete paper
version if they could get a network-able CD set, how many parents
would dedicate the space to paper if they could just add a CD drive
and a one inch "bookshelf"?
___
X OLX 2.2 X Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: KURT EASTABROOKS Number: 4062
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 3:24p
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
> Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy
> to
> assist you further.
Boris,
does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card? I have 3 alder
Hitachi's that are finially giving up the ghost ands will be looking to replace
them with stackable internals.
Kurt Eastabrooks
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From: CHRIS BLANKENSHIP Number: 4063
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:57p
Subj: Action Media Drivers... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody have Action Media SCSI drivers for dos and OS/2? I am in
desperate need to make this SCSI Adapter board work in my computer, the only
problem is that it is on my system board, and I dont have the factory drivers
disk's... Also on the system board is the Designtech HIAMP sound chip. I dont
have drivers for that either.. any help guys? I have tried CorelSCSI for a
possible generic SCSI adapter driver, but it does not work.. Any and all help
is greatly appreciated!.. Thx :)
Chris
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From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 4064
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:26p
Subj: Drives that read 697 megs Refer: NONE
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I am looking for a SCSI CD-ROM drive that will read ALL of the files on
Storm #1. It has 697 megs on it. My Chinon 435 drives will not read all
of the disk.
If you have a drive and have tested it with Storm I, please tell me.
(Has anyone tried it with a Texel DM 3024 or 3028?)
Brian
P.S. I'm also looking for the names of some good, very new Adult CDs as
an alternative to spending $300 - $400 on a new drive.
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From: HAROLD BINGHAM Number: 4065
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 4:38p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
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From: SIMON GRONOW Number: 4066
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 12:06p
Subj: DRM-60x Ver 1.11 Drivers! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Crossposted in RA_BETA
* Crossposted in CDROM
* Crossposted in AUST_SYSOP
* Crossposted in OZ_BETA
* Crossposted in OBTT
Hello All!
I have the latest version of the Pioneer DRM-60x Drivers.
The filename is DR60V111.EXE and it's 176k BIG!
It's available from 3:632/998
3:632/999
3:632/1000
Simon Gronow
The Software Works, mail by the Bay
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4067
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/27/93 7:28a
Subj: 7Th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-22-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Russell
Hardie said to All:-
RH>I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
RH>
RH>When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that
RH>it is almost impossible to undertand them.
RH>
RH>Any suggestions?
RH>
RH>My system is:
RH>
RH>486-25SX, 4Mb RAM
RH>Panasonic Double Speed Cd-ROM Drive
RH>Sound Blaster 16 ASP
RH>
RH>I have installed the 7th Guest fix, dated December 1992. Is there are
RH>a later one available that will help my problem? If so, if anyone can
RH>give me the node number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very
RH>greatful (preferably v32bis).
Please post yuor autoexec and config.sys files so we can have a look
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4068
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/26/93 12:10p
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>ok, thanks for the support. At the moment I'll keep your name etc on
>file. I'll email you as soon as its ready to go - ie: once I've talked to
>a few more people, chatted with some suppliers etc. If I need some help
>I'll definitely let you know....
Cool! I look foward to hearing from you!
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4069
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 8:58a
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting
AW>>> the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is
AW>>> playing, I lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording
AW>>> purposes =only=?
RE>> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to
RE>> let me know *EXACTLY* what you're doing!
AW>> I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the
AW>> audio from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
RE> The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia sound to have
come
RE> off the CD-ROM, into memory and then been passed to the sound card via
RE> the Windows MM drivers....
What you expected is what is happening <sheepish grin>
AW>> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
AW>> CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable
AW>> appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if
AW>> I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is
AW>> abruptly cut off. This was my basic test to prove that the line-in
AW>> wasn't just for recording purposes as had been suggested.
RE> Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red & white
RE> connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at the back of the
RE> CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an audio CD! I'm starting
to
RE> want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some testing! <g>
I'm guilty of giving out misinformation. I've tested it again, and
disconnecting the red and white connectors whilst MM sound is playing has no
effect. The only excuse I can possibly offer is that during my previous
experimentation, I may have inadvertently disconnected the SB line-out to
stereo cable instead. Sorry.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4070
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 9:01a
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for
AW>> audio CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio
AW>> portable CD player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing
AW>> an audio CD in the background has such little impact on Window's
AW>> performance.
RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I think)
RE> 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more than enough
RE> to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
AW>> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW
AW>> MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just
AW>> wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
AW>>
RE> Which one? I'll play it and see....
Under 'SOUND' then 'MUSICAL SELECTIONS', most of pieces show the distortion
I mentioned. "Handel, George Frideric - Water Music, Hornpipe" is one of
the more distorted examples on my setup.
Regards, Alan
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4071
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 8:53p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Malcolm Wright <=-
RE> Hi Mal!
RE> On 09-14-93 Malcolm Wright wrote to All...
MW> Can anyone here tell me where I can get a Panasonic Cr-562-b Cd-Rom
MW> drive here in Western Australia?
RE> Try your local Osborne Computers (Australia) dealer! They resell the
RE> CR562B and paddle card as their CD-200 kit.
MW> What is the approximate cost I am looking at?
RE> I'd say around $A450.00.... I haven't been able to get their current
RE> price for this kit out of the local salesmen yet!
Hi Rowan,
I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
I called him for specs etc and they follow......
Panasonic 562
Internal
Double speed
Kodak Multi Session
Transfer rate=300kb/s
Access time=320 ms
680-690 capacity
Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
I have one of the SB V2 mono cards in my system.
TM. :)
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4072
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/25/93 7:45p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Adrian Salas <=-
SG> Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
SG> If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Hi Scott,
I you get a cataloge, could you net me a copy of it too?
TM. :>
... Trust in Allah...but tie up your camel.
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4073
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris,
Can you send me a complete catalogue of CD hardware /Software
please?
320 Pallas Street
MARYBOROUGH QLD 4650
AUSTRALIA.
Thanks.
TM. :>
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4074
To: CHRIS MASON Date: 09/26/93 11:03a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Why does your BBS echo all these messages again ???
I hope you are prepared to pay the excess phone bills for all those
international and national feeds.
In this packet alone I counted 64 messages retransmitted by your system.
Please check and fix your config.
HP> 97365.
HP> -!- GOMail v1.1 [92-0231]
HP> ! Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103)
HP> -!- VFIDO 6.10.01
HP> ! Origin: The Glass City (1:226/1300)
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4075
To: ANDREW PAGE Date: 09/26/93 11:19a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Andrew, In a message on <Sep 22>, you said :
AP> Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area,
AP> you're writing to EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this
AP> echo.
You forgot about the rest of the world <g>.
This is an International Echo.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4076
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 11:23a
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Tim, In a message on <Sep 20>, you said :
RE>> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
RE>> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
RE>> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
RE>> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
TW> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has
TW> a Sound Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have
TW> Sound Blaster 16s.
You may find there are two kits !
If the labeling says SB16 Discovery kit, I would imagine it would be very
unlikely to find an SBPRO in the box. If that were the case then I would sue
for false advertising.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4077
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/26/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Boris, In a message on <Sep 23>, you said :
BO> Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of
BO> me....one say's 340ms average access time, while the other
BO> say's 320ms average access time.
BO> Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both
BO> unit's, I pulled the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best
BO> quess would be to split the diffrence and say thier 330ms
BO> average access time.....grin -:)
Better make sure you put the correct books back in the right box <G>
They prob test them and place the book according to the result of the test <G>
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4078
To: JEFF TAYLOR Date: 09/26/93 11:43a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Jeff, In a message on <Sep 22>, you said :
->> (1:102/523)
JT> Please Mail Me Your Catalog...
JT> Jeff Taylor
JT> 5248 NW 94th Terrace
JT> Sunrise, Fl 33351
JT> -!- WM v3.01/92-0182
JT> ! Origin: Dr Downloads BBS (305) 746-0795 (1:369/74.0)
Why didnt you just ask him instead of quoting the whole xxxxx message.
Laurie
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 4079
To: PATRICK FITZGERALD Date: 09/24/93 11:27p
Subj: SB-16 ASP + Panasonic CR- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PF>Please Help me,
PF>I've just bought the SB16 ASP + Panasonic CR-562-B Multimedia kit & it
PF>work !
PF>AUTOEXEC.BAT
PF>
PF>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
PF>SET SOUND=C:\SB16
PF>C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /TREBLE:0
PF>C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
PF>LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PF>LH MOUSE/2
PF>@ECHO OFF
PF>PROMPT $p$g
PF>PATH C:\DOS;c:\windows
PF>SET TEMP=C:\DOS
PF>C:\DOS\DOSSHELL
PF>C:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
PF>
Hello Patrick,
Looks like MSCDEX is not loading because DOSSHELL is stopping your
AUTOEXEC.BAT dead in its tracks.
Try moving the c:\dos\dosshell line to the end of AUTOEXEC.BAT.
Just for the record, here are my startup files (using the SB16 ASP and
563).
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
buffers=30,0
files=40
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=K
fcbs=1,0
DOS=HIGH
STACKS=9,256
country=061,,c:\dos\country.sys
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /e:260 /p
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,5264 =D:\SB16\DRV\ASP.SYS /P:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,13552 =D:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,44688 =C:\DOS\DBLSPACE.SYS /MOVE
AUTOEXEC.BAT
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET SOUND=D:\SB16
D:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /LINE:220 /TREBLE:100
D:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
@echo off
LH /L:0;1,42384 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE i j
dblspace /ratio /all
prompt $p$g$
set winpmt=$p$g$
PATH:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;c:\zip;
LH /L:1,15520 C:\DOS\keyb us,,c:\dos\keyboard.sys
LH /L:1,6400 C:\DOS\doskey
octmouse
verify on
set TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
LH /L:1,52464 undelete /load
LH /L:1,46576 D:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
\menu\menu
Everything works fine for me.
Bye.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4080
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 11:56a
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so o
RE> speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is the fas
RE> sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
The newer Pioneer 6 changer has a quad speed transfer rate. 600 kb/s
The Toshiba drive has a seek time of 200 ms.
The panasonic drive has 300kb/s and 320-350 ms access.
Would you agree that both are faster than Panasonic drive?
There is however a faster Panasonic drive, soon to be released, it is a
caddy job giving it a better seek time (280ms) and SCSI2.
Still same transfer rate though.
Also CL are releasing a SB16 soon with a SCSI port built in.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4081
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/27/93 9:25a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AK>Thanks Dean. Your suggestions covered about all the options. Turns out
AK>that
AK>the controller was bad. I have another on its way now. Had the drive
AK>two weeks and still not up and running.....
Glad you got it sorted out.
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4082
To: CHRIS SLOYAN Date: 09/26/93 4:41p
Subj: Re: Advice Please..... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Chris Sloyan to All <=-
CS> Hi All,
CS> I just bought the New Panasonic Multi-Spin CD rom kit which
CS> included the SoundBlaster 16 card. Has anyone heard anything about
CS> these yet. Good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
The Multispin is okay. The Sound Blaster 16 basically stinks. I don't know
why people care more about the SCSI on the sound card than how the sound card
sounds. That's why they call it a "sound card." People on this echo are
actually waiting for the next OPL chip. OPL2 and OPL3 (SB16) are FM, people!
Wavetable IS the next generation. Look into a GUS.
... 32 digital voices - that's either a Ultrasound or 4 Amigas
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4083
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 5:03p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Alan Whitemore <=-
RE> Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe the
RE> classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds and
RE> bees in mono at 22.05!
The SB 2.0 can play 44.1Khz stereo samples at 44.1Khz mono, I hope you know.
RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I
RE> think) 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more
RE> than enough to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
The SB 2.0 has 4 watts per channel amplification. Speakers sound bad because
they're cheap, not because of 4 watts of amperage.
Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best sound
card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced, stone-age FM card
with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster). Just because a card has
"16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on it does not mean the music is any
better than FM and besides, how many people do you know have a stereo
microphone to record with?
... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable voices
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4084
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/26/93 5:17p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to Bob Roman <=-
AB> Okay thanx, but I see in different magazines that SB 16 is a better
AB> technology and all this upgrading to ASP and stuff, well since the
AB> price difference is not too much, I guess I will go with the best they
AB> have to offer, thanx and TTYL.
Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products? The
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent price. ASP is
just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression engine) which has little or
no support as of today. What's even better is the Gravis Ultrasound. The
"GUS" has:
1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards have)
2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
4) 3D sound capability
5) General MIDI compatibility
6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
7) Native GUS support
8) $199 list price, $129 street price
... Yamaha OPL3 is FM (crap) / Esonique is WAVETABLE (wave of the future)
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4085
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/28/93 1:00a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Julian Schoffel beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-
JS>drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway wh
JS>caching program.
I got lousey results with Speedway but got excellent results with
Lightning CD.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4086
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/28/93 1:04a
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gene Ehrich beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
GE>RR> I have for sale: ENCARTA by Microsoft. It is not new. I will
GE>RR>it for the first $105 offer I get. The price includes shipping in
GE>RR>US. Get back to me here and leave a message. I only have one so
GE>
GE> $35 including shipping.
GE>
GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can bu
GE> new for just a few dollars more.
I've never seen Encarta anywhere for less than $249 Gene and I keep an eye
out for it because it's on my want list.
Ron
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4087
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/27/93 10:50p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to
-> >blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
->
-> You DON'T.
I could be wrong, and a thousand people will tell me if so (grin) but
the Mitsumi uses a sony interface and there is a kit currently being
sold that includes a Sound Blaster Pro with Sony interface (Yes I said
Sony and not Panasonic), Mario is missing CD, and one other game on CD
that I cannot remember. We just received them in last week and are
planning to hook one up later this week.
BTW the kit is being sold at S.E.C. Custom Computers in Louisville Ky
for $149.00, Their number is 502-448-9397
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4088
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:04p
Subj: Mitsumi Multi Spin?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen a few ads that mention a Mitsumi double spin CD-Rom drive. I
have sold Mitsumi before and slowed down when the Panasonic drive came
out but would still like the info if its been released. Has anyone heard
this or does anyone have data or wholesale pricing on the unit?
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 4089
To: MAU TESTA Date: 09/08/93 5:13p
Subj: thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mau,
Received your first message asking for help to install files into
Wildcat. David is out of town till the end of September and My name is
Valerie. I am trying to take care of business while he is gone. I told
him of you problems and he said you should download ROMDOOR. It is an
excellent program and better than Wildcat interface. When he returns he
said he would be happy to make a disk of ROMDOOR and premade databases
and send to you. Since you have it worked out now you may not want it.
Just let me know. I will try to help in anyway.
Valerie
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 4090
To: MAU TESTA Date: 09/13/93 9:37p
Subj: thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Maurice,
I am happy that everything worked out well for you. Thank you for
the compliment, I appreciate it.
Valerie
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From: JAMES REYLE Number: 4091
To: MICHEAL MULCAHY Date: 09/25/93 2:42a
Subj: technical cdroms disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
====QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE====
JR> To all: Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more
JR> towanrd the Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that
JR> deals alot with Patents and developments. Something like what you
JR> would find out of an Almanac.
JR>
JR> James Reyle
====QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE====
James, I have searching for technical reference material also.
Primarily
information similar to Schaums outlines on Scientifc and Mathematical
information. Should you or I find any such information I will be happy
to share
it with you. Tks...m2
Micheal:
I found a good shareware disk I bought called Libris Britannia. It
has
alot of engineering programs on there. Lots of programming tools
and
etc. It's a little bit more than your average cdrom disk, but it
was
well worth it. I has alot of other stuff. Put out by Walnut Creek
CDRom. I hear there is another technical cd out, called EMS, that
is
very good, probably up your alley.
hope this helps.
James Reyle
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4092
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 12:01p
Subj: Did you get my NETMAIL ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris,
I sent a CrashMail to you last week, and I didn't get any
replies from you, even through CDROM-ECHOMAIL.
Please, tell me if you did get it, O.K. ? Because I want those
CDs...
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4093
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/26/93 2:51a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>Nope a problem, glad we were able to help.....
BO>Hope we'll be hearing from you again real soon....
BO>Boris Osadciw
Thanks Boris,
you will be hearing from me REAL SOON. Please, any new CDs ...
advertise, O.K. ?????
And don't forget to send me a complete catalog, right ?
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
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From: JOE HALE Number: 4094
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/27/93 7:18a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not su
-> of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people downloading. I
-> seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the file to a staging dire
-> ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard that if I connected the drm
-> to the BBS machines it would have been very slow and problems would o
-> all I suggest is that you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sev
Tarquinn,
Do what I did. I was running 3 Mitsumi Cd-Rom's and was not having to
many problems, but ate up the memory which is very precious to most of
us. I thought about the Pioneer until I found a deal on NEC External
SCCI drives with cables and cards. Think about this: If you have trouble
with that Pioneer you lose all 6 cd's online but I can hook up all 7
Nec's to one card getting more memory and if one cd-rom goes down I dont
loose them all. Now a Pioneer cost the newer one about $1300.00 and 7
NEC's cost me $1200.00 and I got 7 cd's instead of 6. Food for thoguht.
BTW I am not putting the Pioneer down in anyway, all cd-rom's have their
problems.
Joe
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4095
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/23/93 8:27a
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year, and
if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4096
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 8:30a
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
JL> shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
JL> versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
JL>
JL> Computer Works Jim...
JL> CD-Rom Sales!
JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice
JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
Thanks for the offer. I will indeed check it out either at the end of this
year or beginning of next.
Thanks!
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 4097
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/28/93 7:52a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CW> ----------------------------------------
CW> Is there any bulletin board that carries this file, I can not find it
CW> here locally...
Not on BBS. Since we talked, there is a new version 2.2 out
and it is available from Systems integration Tech
2380 south powerline rd.
suite 171
pompano Beach, FL. 33069
The new version has AUDIO support also.
Sorry, they have a BBS support 305-979-1976
Price is 20 or 25.00, I am not sure, I got it as an upgrade. Tnx.
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4098
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18a
Subj: Possibly good prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just got a catalog from a company called CD-ROM Warehouse, a division
of Micro Warehouse. They have some prices that seem great, depending on
exactly who makes their drives.
The house brand is "Power User"
The first unit is a Sony caddyless drive, Double Speed, Multi Session,
Kodak Photo CD compatible, MPC compliant. Internal $225
External $299
With Dinosaurs!, 3D Chess, Mayo Clinic, Grolier: Internal $325
External $399
A Toshiba TXM-3301 lists at $499
Sydos Personal CD lists at $279 with the above bundle $349
They seem to have some very fair prices on discs we don't see on the
echo, such as The Random House Unabridged Dictionary, CD & paper $99
CD-ROM Warehouse's address is
1720 Oak Street, Lakewood, New Jersey, USA, 0870
1-800-237-6623 fax 1-908-370-7046
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4099
To: DEALERS Date: 09/27/93 11:37a
Subj: Do you have & how much Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to buy a copy of "The Constitutional Papers"
Publisher Johnson & Company, Electronic Publishers and Consultants
I am interested in a review and price for "Video Hound Multimedia"
Thank you.
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From: PAUL HERMANN Number: 4100
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/28/93 1:12a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the
JS>fastest CD-Rom drives around at the moment. I was thinking
JS>of getting CD Speedway which is a caching program. Has
JS>anyone got this program and if so do you think it will make
JS>any noticeable difference to my drive?
I have the same drive and was wondering the same thing. So I asked
around a little and found some people that tried a CD caching program
with the NEC multi-spin drives. They said that there was only a slight
performance gain. I think that these CD-Caches are design with the slow
150kb Drives in mind.
NOTE: If you see some actual numbers on the performance, let me know.
-Paul
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X OLX 2.2 X ... Tag line Thievery ... on the next Geraldo!!
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From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 4101
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/26/93 11:04a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ronald!
24 Sep 93 08:06, Ronald Keeney wrote to All:
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
I tried running two on my board with little success. However there are a
lot of dodads running of the one computer. The Mitsumi's only have 3 DMA
channel choices. That limits you to three CD if you have DMA 5 to 7 free. The
better option is to get a SCSI cd rom like NEC. Then you can daisy chain at
least 8 off of one card. If your running a 1 Gig hard drive it should be SCSI
(mabey, mabey not?) If you are you should be able to hook up a SCSI CD rom
drive off that card (as well as tape backup)
Jolan Tru
Jeff
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From: BRAD YOURTH Number: 4102
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:47a
Subj: cd rom networking Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
+when installing a cdrom network, using optinet software, is version 2.15 of
novel netware sufficient to run the network, or do we need 3.11 or ver 4.0?
any assistance would be appreciated.
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4103
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/27/93 10:44p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying t
BF>claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the
BF>have been reasonable in HIS area).....
What's a reasonable price in YOUR area, Brice?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4104
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/27/93 11:00p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC>Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and
SC>named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer makes CD
SC>drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase change optical dr
SC>no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of buying one, but not if they
SC>of the market. Service problems down the road are something I don't n
SC>anyone finds out that this info is wrong, let me know.
No excuse needed! THANK YOU for butting in! <G> You have confirmed that
this is EXACTLY what Panasonic tells those calling for info in its CD-ROM
drives.
The number you quoted is the Panasonic Office Automation line. Office
Automation is the division in charge of CD-ROM.
Despite what they told BOTH OF US, the parent company, Matsushita
Electric, still makes CD-ROM drives. They are intended for OEM use, mostly
in packaged sets from companies like Creative Labs (who do not use the
"Panasonic" name).
"Panasonic" no longer markets or promotes Matsushita CD-ROM drives. When
you request literature on these drives, they send you a packet on optical
drives ("flopticals") but nothing on CD-ROM hardware.
More to follow....
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4105
To: SOMEONE ASKING ABOUT Date: 09/28/93 5:49a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This message was from GORDON PETERSON to JAMES WILLIAMS,
and was forwarded to someone ?? by BUTCH SANDERSON.
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JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
works great.
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Butch
_____
I apologize to the person who wrote email to me asking about Mitsumi's
and audio. I bypassed the email online thinking my offline reader would
pick it up......mistake. Anyhow hope this gets to you and helps.
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4106
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 5:45a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem or
GP>special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
GP>Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
Gordon,
I dont think the person is correct. I run an internal Mitsumi under DOS
6 with about the same basic config I had in DOS 5 and it works great.
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4107
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 11:29a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The only Amiga CD-ROMs currently are the CDTV and CD32 systems along
with the A570. However, any SCSI CD-ROM will work on the Amiga,
regardless of the computer it is designed for. I had the opportunity
this past week to hook up a couple of different CDROMS to my Amiga 4000
and both worked very well. The software I used was AsimCDFS and I was
pleased with the software. It is very easy and quick to install and
the CD becomes mounted as a volume and device into AmigaDOS, this gives
you access to the CD as easily as a HD or FD, etc. There is a
background program that runs and detects if the CD is removed or
replaced. Using the CDROM and software I had, I was able to look at CDs
for use with OS/2, NEXt, Windows, and Macintosh. The only thing I was
not able to read was a Kodak PhotoCD, the reason was that the CD-ROM
wasn't a multi-session CD-ROM (which is needed to view PhotoCDs), the
software interface supported PhotoCDs, however. There are two other
CD-ROM controlling software packages for the Amiga available in the
commerical market. They are CDX Disk Set (Xetec) and CDROM-FS
(Canadian Prototype Replicas). Note: AsimCDFS is marketed by
Asimware.
While the Amiga will not be able to directly run any programs that
aren't for the Amiga off of a CDROM there are several advantages for
having a CD-ROM on the Amiga:
1) The ability to run all CDTV and CD32 disks on the Amiga
2) Data files can be read from and used off of the CD regardless
of the type of disk assuming the type can be read and mounted (for ex.
disks which contain pictures, clipart, fonts, animations, etc. can all
be read directly from the CD)
3) The CD can be shared between any number of computers (this is
accomplished by placing the CD-ROM on the SCSI chain of both computers
- doing this will enable either computer to access the CD-ROM unit)
4) Massive data storage (you can purchase CDs with encyclopedias,
books, mini-movies, etc.)
5) If a bridgeboard is present in the Amiga you can use the SCSI
chain idea I mentioned earlier so that the IBM BB can have CD-ROM
access.
6) When using the Emplant board, ANY emulation performed by the
board has access to the CD-ROM unit (ie. MACINTOSH emulation with a
CD-ROM shared with the Amiga.)
Most of the info contained on a CD is data, since data is
interchangable between any computer you have access to an additional
650+ meg of data each time you insert a new CD, even if you don't have
the computer it was designed for.
For more info, there is a great article in AmigaWorld (Oct. 93)
concerning CD-ROMs or the Amiga.
Peter Lasne
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4108
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 11:34a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Alot of CD-ROMs that I have seen for PCs contain almost exclusively
data, such as a disk full of clipart or pictures or textfiles, etc.
While the Amiga may not be able to access the program files (except
through an Emplant or BridgeBoard or something) all of the data is
available for the Amiga.
In your question of why is everything moving to CD-ROM, you answered
it, more memory, the disks sometimes contain entire encyclopedias with
animations or 315 photo-quality pictures, etc.
Peter Lasne
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From: MARK CROSBIE Number: 4109
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 4:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
-> and mailing address I can send you a list.
BossMan's HideOut BBS
% Mark Crosbie
P.O. Box 326
London, Oh 43140-0326
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 4110
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 7:28a
Subj: PHEONIX 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does any one have the BBS.dir for the Pheonix 4 CD-Rom, It has the one with
[File Name] [Description], But what I need is [File Name] [Size] [Date]
[Description], The previous versions came with this, But this one did not
Thanks in advance Eldon
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4111
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB>
JB> =======================================================================
JB> ==== Packet: COZYK
JB> Date: 09-16-93 (14:08) Number: 86
JB> From: ADRIAN SALAS Refer#: NONE
JB> To: ALL Recvd: NO
JB> Subj: CATALOGS Conf: (35) CDROM
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
If you could please send me one of your Catalogs.. thank you
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thank you.
... This tagline is made just for Adrian Salas
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4112
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you could add me to your Mailing list @
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thanks
... Security, confine Ensign Bergman to the brig.
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4113
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> RE: mail order
DS> BY: Jim Lambert to Ken Chan on Sat Sep 11 1993 03:20 pm
If you could send me a Cd rom Catalog
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thanks
... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 4114
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/25/93 2:18p
Subj: Re: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a particular industry, the
JC> search program would find all conflicting laws concerning your industry.
It would be easier just to make it un-constitutional to Lobby! :)
I do however agree that reference disks are handy and can speed up your file
searches for certain matter. Haven't seen one in regards to firearms
though. Sorry.
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4115
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Joseph Thomas wrote
----------------------------------------
>> Right you are, It has no audio, but the audio-upgrade is
>> being made available now. None of the BETA version should work.
----------------------------------------
Is there any bulletin board that carries this file, I can not find it
here locally...
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4116
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
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Jim Lambert wrote
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>>I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
>>shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
>>versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
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Do you still have this available, if so I will take it...
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4117
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: looking for the Res/busin Refer: NONE
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Looking for the Prophone Residential/Business CD rom if you have it
(either 3 or 7 then let me know)....
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4118
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/27/93 9:00p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rob Perelman to All <=-
Yea, Send me a Copy of the catalog
Shon Sterling
Box 3162
Arnold, CA 95223
Thanks alot
... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10
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From: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Number: 4119
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:02p
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: NONE
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A relation of mine is considering publishing his own monthly or bi-monthly
CD-ROM. It will contain app 100 MB of data which will be supplied to the
producer on floppy disks. He will need app 1,000 copies per CD-ROM.
Could someone in the industry give me an indication of what this might cost?
I'd like to know the approximate fixed costs (mastering etc), the costs of
1,000 copies of this master (just the disks, no jewel boxes etc), and the cost
of each additional copy. Also, what would those prices look like if he commits
himself to doing this 6 or 12 times a year? Finally, how long would production
of each batch of disks take?
Thank you! I can be reached on Fido 2:512/1.2 or preferably CIS 100121,1562.
-Daan-
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 4120
To: LAURENT MADURAUD Date: 09/22/93 9:31p
Subj: demos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
suite«...
j'ai essaye amnesia : bôôfff !
a +
FDS International ( euh ?)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4121
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/20/93 9:35p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Most CD-ROMs probably take a lot less disc changing than audio CD drives do
BF>>and experience during something like ten years demonstrates that this simpl
BF>is
BF>>NOT a problem.
BF>My First Generation Hitachi audio player has NEVER had a problem with it's
Hey! I'll bet it's like the one I've got... nice aqua fluo readout of
track/index etc... but mine's in storage back in Texas (sigh).
BF>motorised door - and I've had the thing over 10 years now, and put on the
BF>average at LEAST 6 discs a day into it - 20 to 30 discs on a few days....
Yup. No reason at all to presume that something like that is going to
wear out all that fast. The people that were dumb enough to buy
drives requiring caddies are now trying to justify their mistake, that's
all, by grasping at straws to explain why they ought to pay an extra $5
for every disc they buy.
Actually, I'll grant that caddies MIGHT be interesting for two or maybe
three types of utilization.
ONE: People who plan to let their preschool kids shove caddies in and
out. (But heck, kids can be taught to play audio CDs without caddies,
can't they?).
TWO: Use in a car, where you shouldn't take your eyes off the road.
THREE: In a CD-ROM changer, where you MIGHT want to be able to load a
cartridge containing several discs as a set (as the Pioneer does), or
even a large set of 50 or more discs (like that German changer does).
For the normal user, caddies have NO interest sufficient to justify the
hassle and the expense.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4122
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/20/93 9:42p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>I just checked several of my fonts for curiosity and all of them
TT>GP> worked perfectly well with European special characters and still they
TT>GP> came with US-versions of software
TT>GP> A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever
TT>GP> them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, w
TT>GP> NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case
TT>GP> HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
TT>GP> printer's (limited) memory.
TT>How do you strip out certain characters?
There are shareware programs to do this. (In fact, I've already written
programs myself for HP format SoftFonts that are capable of doing this).
TT>Even Americans need foreign
TT>characters (for them) once in a while for example when writing some names
TT>of foreign origin.
You can always write foreign names and addresses within the normal ASCII
character set, and they get delivered just fine. Even to places where
the native language isn't written with roman-alphabet characters at all.
TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
TT>GP> guessed. :-(((
TT>No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters, everything
TT>works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
Yeah, as long as EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING runs under Windows forever.
:-( Which simply isn't the case.
TT>GP> There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one
TT>GP> needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
TT>GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
TT>GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
TT>GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
No, they aren't. If you look at audio CD drives, basically none of them
(except in the automobile market) use caddies. And that is by FAR the
largest population of CD drives worldwide. Those computer CD-ROM drives
which use caddies are a _miniscule_ percentage of the total.
TT>Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
TT>prices...
Again, it's simple. If people simply REFUSE TO BUY, the vendors will
(eventually, but finally) take the hint. If you keep buying stuff
that's stupid or overpriced, you're just encouraging them to give you
more of the same.
TT>GP> They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventual
TT>GP> disappear completely.
TT>I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
TT>check how much caddies are around.
Yup... do that! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4123
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/20/93 11:57p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>Interesting. Another reply had it 5:1 in favor of sysops. Part of what
BJ>originally sparked the discussion was the fact that more and more CDs
BJ>(of all types) are coming with increasingly sophisticated front-ends -
BJ>like SHOWOFF on BB3 - which have little/no value to sysops. At the same
BJ>time, there is a concomitant increase in interest for having "FILES.BBS"
BJ>(or whatever) on new CDs. Clearly the producers are trying to please
BJ>both markets.
Frankly, I _hate_ those "fancy front-ends" and menuing systems, and
NEVER use them on shareware discs. Why? Because I _already_ have
something like twenty or thirty CD-ROMs, the bulk of them containing
shareware, and there is NO way I'm going to bring up as many as thirty
different front-end menuing and data access programs (all of them
different and with a different user interface) to try to find out which
disc has the program or driver or whatever that I'm looking for on it.
What I _want_ is a simple way that I can keep (on my hard drive) a
unified files directory for ALL my shareware CD-ROMs, with the file
descriptions keyword-searchable, to help me quickly find out if I have
somewhere a file or program to do what I need to do.
At the moment, the closest thing to this that I've found is to import
the CD-ROM FILES.BBS type descriptions into my Robocomm Downloaded Files
database, using the CD-ROM name as the "BBS name", and searching there
using its keyword search facility. I also use my own GEPKAT Disk
Cataloguing System as a way of quickly finding which CD-ROM in my
collection has an archive file containing a given file I'm looking for.
Version 2 of GEPKAT will have a lightning-fast keyword search facility
within file descriptions, so at that point I will perhaps be able to
retire Robocomm, at least as far as that function goes (mine won't be
probably any better functionally, but it will be a LOT faster).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4124
To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Date: 09/21/93 12:12a
Subj: In-200 Vs. Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD>Under a novell network, I would strongly recommend someone think twice befo
JD>getting an IN-2000 card. The cards do not work well with the ASPI driver th
JD>Always Tech has.
I've got two of these cards running quite happily in Novell servers,
both here right beside me and at one of my clients. I'd take you up on
your offer, except that I already have a spare one on the shelf as it
is. :-))
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4125
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/21/93 12:17a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
works great.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4126
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:18a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem or
special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4127
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/21/93 12:21a
Subj: Natnl Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely indexed- NOT the sho
LG>2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
discs instead of just two! (The only thing I've found patently wrong is
that a lot of the business entries are missing the city name from their
listing).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4128
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/21/93 12:33a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Regarding your proposed changes to this echo:
1) I am opposed to the removal of adult material. You know as well as
anyone that CD-ROMs as a media would not be where they are without
those discs as a motivator to buy a drive.
2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real hard to kill this
conference.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4129
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 8:22p
Subj: WC2 cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have been looking everywhere for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a
good price.. Is any one or business here selling it? BTW: it is the one
with Special Ops 1,2 and the speech pack, NOT the one with Ultima 6.
Mark
>> Mark
... "Energize!" said Kirk, and a pink bunny appeared.
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From: BYRON WELLS Number: 4130
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/27/93 5:19p
Subj: Re: Home Addresses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Exactly why I spend a mere $35 per year on a Post Office Box.....Well worth
the money to keep yer stuff in yer own house...
Byron...
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 4131
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 7:44p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.00
■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: SCOTT WILKINS Number: 4132
To: FRIED FREDDY Date: 09/28/93 3:07a
Subj: Time Bank Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! just wanted to let you know I couldn't access the Time Bank. Tried twice
and nothing. Hope eveything comes back soon! Thanx!
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From: JOHN ALSTON Number: 4133
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:00a
Subj: New Here! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
I'm John Alston of the Vulcan-Net BBS. I'm new here and want to
know do you discuss only computer CD-ROM's for data-sake or all CD-
ROM's, i.e. Multi-Media???
Thanx in advance, Peace!
JA
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From: ALAN KANTOR Number: 4134
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 9:57a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Richard Mccarty summoned these runes before the eyes of Adrian Salas
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like one of your catalogs. Thanks!
Alan Kantor
28A Reading Road
Edison, N.J. 08817
... Too much infinity.
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4135
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 3:22p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >DP=>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a
-> >cop DP=>
-> >DAn Got some, 32.00 +s/h. Shipped Priority mail.
-> >SEND Check/Money Order Payable to: Adrian Salas
-> >Please include $5.00 shipping up to 3 CDs Add .50 for each addition.
-> >CA Residents add 7.75% Sales tax.
-> >S.D. ROM CONNECTION 2434 East 32nd Street,
-> >National City, CA 91950-7710
-> >Questions/Orders 619-479-8688 10:am to 7:pm.
-> ---------------------------------------------
-> > ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
-> >--- WM v2.09/93-0044
-> > * Origin: SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION "Your CD-ROM Shop!" (1:202/1705)
-> >322/327
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> You Can Call List Below... Yes They Have Night Owl 9.0 39.95..
->
-> CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTTING
-> P.O.Box 165
-> SEELYVILLE,IN 47878 VOICE 1-812-442-0110 9am to 9pm cst
-> (ORDERS ONLY) 1-800-768-7929
->
-> Tell Them That John Wilkinson Has Sent You to Them...
->
-> Thank You,
->
-> Most Of Adult CD are BBS Ready...
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4136
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 3:23p
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >On 25 Sep 93 10:17:00, I heard Dan Polivy shout to All:
-> >DP> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a
-> >cop
-> >DP>
-> >DP> DAn
-> >Night Owl 9.0 is $25.00
-> >Call 1-800-638-5757
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->
-> ------------------------------------------------
->
-> CALL CMS SOFTWARE 1-800-768-7929 ORDERS ONLY
-> 1-812-442-0110 INFOMATION
-> BBS READY!! Tell Them That John Wilkinson
-> Has Sent You...!!
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 4137
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/26/93 4:14a
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
Simply put, many popular CD-ROM drives use proprietary interfaces,
often going through a sound card like the Soundblaster Pro...
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4138
To: PETER BOSKOS Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter,
Two of the Firearm's Reference would be $60 + s/h. Please add $13 for
insured Airmail shipping, or $7.50 for non-insured Airmail small packet
shipping. We accept all major credit cards. More order info below.
Thanks,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4139
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP>TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
KP>TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
KP>TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
KP>TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
KP>TB> be interested to hear from you.
KP>Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
And Starvector Software has it for $16.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4140
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>-> >>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
MS>-> >>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
MS>-> ----------------------------------------
MS>->
MS>-> How do I order these two? You take plastic
MS>Yes, we take VISA or Mastercard! We've sold out those two at that
MS>price, but we can order more in at the regular price if you're
MS>interested. Drop us a line at 306-789-4654.
Hi cutie! Hey, I told you these were priced too low! You could have
sold 'em for twice that and you would have had enough to buy me that steak
dinner you promised! 8) (just kidding, Vince) BTW: Thanks for the
autographed BB. Came thru without a scratch. Hope yours got there OK.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4141
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div
SR>of
SR>ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number,
SR>but get a
SR>wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have
SR>these titles and
SR>at what prices? I want the following:
Stu,
We have the indicated CD's in stock at the following prices: SVS
-----
SR>Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 13.00
SR>USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
SR>Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 28.00
SR>Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 86.00
SR>CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 4.99 ea.
SR>I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
SR>MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
We do accept Mastercard, and shipping is $4 up to 5 pieces, + 50-cents
for each piece over 5. Feel free to call our toll-free number if you
wish to order.
Thanks,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4142
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Dan,
In stock at $25! Also, we're now accepting pre-orders for Night Owl 10
at $35. Give me a call if you're interested.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4143
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! | | Title:
MM> MS> FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MM> MS>
MM> MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers *
MM> MS> 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats *
MM> MS> Custom-designed Super-VGA interface * Covers every firearm from black
MM> MS> powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
MM>Is this one MAC compatable Mike?
No, just DOS.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4144
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: STREET ATLAS 2.0 IS HERE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: STREET ATLAS v 2.0 Price: $95 |
Street Atlas 2.0 is a complete street map of the entire U.S. on a
single CD-ROM! You can zoom in on every city, town, or rural area in
the country - right down to the smallest backroads. The database gives
you instant access to more than 12 million street segments!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4145
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: NEW OS/2 CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 300+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st week in October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4146
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 8:21a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may want to
trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4147
To: BILL JONES Date: 09/28/93 6:49p
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bill!
I got the cd's in the mail today, thanks for a quick turn around. If you have
any more just let me know, like doing business with someone I can trust!
Pat
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4148
To: MIKE PELLETIER Date: 09/27/93 6:13a
Subj: CD-ROM: writing to them Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MP>Does anyone know where I could get files (presently on my hard drive) writte
MP> to CD-ROM? I am pretty sure I would have to pay some professional, do you
MP> know who might offer this service?
There is a man in this echo that does. If he didn't see you message, you
should his. Pretty reasonable I think.
l8r,
Henry
* OLX 2.1 TD * Hey buddy! Your taglines are untied!
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4149
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:09p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run time
on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I will ship
to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive.
If interested leave me a message here.
... It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing ALPO underwear!
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From: RICH RUBIN Number: 4150
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/27/93 5:29p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gene,
Thank you for your reply about my selling my own copy of Encarta by
Microsoft. I am selling it for $105 but you offered $35. You mentioned
that you can get this cd for a few dollars more than I'm selling it for?
Really? Can you tell me where? I know you aren't going to answer this
but it really bothers me that someone would reply to a message and not
have anything good to say... If you didn't want the cd, then pass on
it! By responding publicly that I'm trying to sell a cd for more than
I should, you are implying that I'm trying to 'steal' from someone else.
Is that what you are implying? If I'm asking to much, than noone will
by it. This is the way it works. Encarta is currently selling at
CompUSA for $279!!! [As of yesterday 9/26/93] In the future if you
don't have anything good to type, KEEP YOUR FINGERS OFF THE KEYBOARD!!!!
I see your type of person here and on other bases. They always see
something for cheaper somewhere else and feel they have to tell an
international base with out backing it up as to where and when they sawy
the cheaper item. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!
I'm really sorry to everyone else here but this type of stuff really,
realy irks me!!
Rich
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From: JEFF NEWMAN Number: 4151
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/28/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
......
NB> Forth, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to explain my post
NB> regarding "L.A. Strippers". Although this CD-ROM contains "explicit
NB> nudity" it is NOT RATED. It is not just a f-flick transferred to CD-ROM!
......
NB> I posted this announcement to let the local users know that if they were
NB> interested in this product they could purchase it from me for $44.95,
NB> after October 1, 1995 the price goes up to around $75.00.
^^^^
Neil, is 1995 the correct date? 1995 seems a long way away. 1993 is here
almost. Also, how is it interactive? thanks
-Jeff NOPCCCC
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4152
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 11:27a
Subj: In-200 Vs. Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> JD>getting an IN-2000 card. The cards do not work well with the ASPI
What bothers me is that the outside of the package says it's novell labs
tested and approved, yet once you open it up, you find that that the drivers
are available from there BBS, and are beta copies. Novell does mark beta
drivers as tested and approved, so I feel they were pulling a fast one. Add
to that fact that the Coral SCSI that came with the card, will not work with
the drivers that are included with the card. I just got sick of the server
crashing every day or two just because I wanted to add CD-roms to my network.
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From: KD4QZZ HARRY Number: 4153
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/27/93 7:11a
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the cabl
JW>that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the sound card
Had the same problem, the pins are reversed between the Mitsumi card and
the Soundblaster (I suspect that plain Soundblaster is actually the
Soundblaster Pro). I was able to work around it by smashing the plastic
key on the Soundblaster and plugging in the cable upside down. I don't
know if that has crossed left and right or not, figure there's a 50-50
chance, so it likely did, but I'm not going to worry about it until I
come across something where it would matter.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4154
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/27/93 12:20p
Subj: Reviews of Adult CDs Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
The now somewhat relaxed rules/guidelines in this echo regarding adult
CDs notwithstanding, I think I'll keep my reveiws of adult CDs over in
the "for sale" echo. I realize that not everyone who gets that echo gets
this one, and perhaps vice-versa. Nonetheless, if someone here who
doesn't get/read the "for sale" echo wants them, they can download or
freq them from this BBS (see address below). The file names are (or will
be when I get them all OCR-ed) as follows:
BUSTY_R3.ZIP Busty Babes V.1/R.3
PORK_2.ZIP Pork-Ware II
TA_MAXX.ZIP T&A to the MAXX
S_BEAUTY.ZIP Southern Beauties
STARE.ZIP STAREware
EROTIC_2.ZIP Erotic Encounters 2
VIVID_1.ZIP Girls of Vivid - V.1
PGG1.ZIP PGG1
D_DREAMS.ZIP Digital Dreams
PORK_1.ZIP Pork-Ware I
DATABASE.ZIP WK1 S/S xref database of GIF names
They'll be in the Text/Magazine directory. With your permission, I'll
post only a short announcement message when new reviews are added to the
list. Please let me know.
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 4155
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 2:30p
Subj: Natnl Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
21 Sep 93, Gordon Peterson writes to Langston Goldfinch:
LG>> 7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely indexed- NOT the
LG>> sho 2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
GP> I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
GP> 7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
try finding the numbers on your block-
Regards
Langston
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 4156
To: CD-ROM DIST. Date: 09/25/93 8:18p
Subj: I'm selling Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a CD-Rom dist. to supply me over here in Guam. Right now
there is NO PLACE on the Island to buy CD's there are a lot of places
that sell the drives but no CD's.
If you would like to be my supplier to an area that has NEVER had this
PLEASE send you price list to...
Patrick McCormick
75 Plumeria St.
New Apra Santa, Gu
96915-0000
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from a lot of you..
Patrick..
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From: CHRIS JENKS Number: 4157
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/26/93 10:59p
Subj: Re: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gary,
The Technical assistance number for Ultrastor Corp. is (714) 581-4100.
If you find out the number for their BBS please return the favor.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4158
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 10:53a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free catalog
RP>to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!! All you have
RP>to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and he will
RP>mail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!! Just respond
RP>privately in this conference or net mail me at 1:202/344.1 with your
RP>information (CD Rom drive type not needed) and we will get it out to you
I'll take one!
Henry Paul
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR. 97365
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4159
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/26/93 11:20a
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LW>For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
>Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
>On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
>the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
Hi Lee. I am a CD-Rom dealer, and I found Shareware Explorer to be the
best multiple disc shareware collection to date. However, I was just
informed of the licensing agreement that is required to run it on a BBS.
Why on earth would you guys make such an outrageous requirement for
sysops to agree to? Several participants, including dealers, on
CircuitNet refuse to have anything to do with Shareware Explorer due to
this licensing agreement. I strongly recommend rethinking your stand on
this issue if you desire to compete in this market. Thank you.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4160
To: MIKE GRIFFIN Date: 09/26/93 11:25a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG=>Do you take major credit cards?
Computer Works accepts Visa & Mastercard. If you will send me your
address, I'd be glad to mail you our latest catalog of over 600 titles.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4161
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/26/93 12:25p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
>latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
>would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
>if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
>be interested to hear from you.
Hi Tanya. How does $18 grab you? <G> If you would like a copy of our
latest catalog, send me your address or give us a call. The catalog can
also be downloaded from our BBS. Thanks.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4162
To: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Date: 09/29/93 7:17p
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: 6599
Read: NO Private: No
-> Could someone in the industry give me an indication of what this migh
-> I'd like to know the approximate fixed costs (mastering etc), the cos
Give me a call & I'll clue you in on the exact process...
tim
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4163
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/26/93 7:35p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-1993, ROBERT POWELL wrote...
RP> It is easy to present
RP> "what if" arguments that on the surface seem to have merit. It is
RP> not always so easy to support those arguments with facts. You might
RP> argue that you have never lost a disk using your caddy drive. Big
RP> deal, I have never damaged one and I have never used a caddy drive
RP> except for demos in computer stores. In fact, as I have stated
RP> earlier I have been using music CDs since 1986 and have yet to frag
RP> the first one. And that includes using them in car and portable CD
RP> players. These are conditions much more severe than a computer CDs
RP> are ever likely to experience.
Rob,
Just a note here. With Audio Cd's, it is much harder to razz a disk and make
it unusable, as the music c section of data could be much more devastating,
maybe making the disk uusable.
I too own a non-caddy drive (the Pan 562B), and have no worries about disks
dying on me, as I will always be carefull with these disks, and can see the
points you are raising...
Marc.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4164
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/28/93 8:05a
Subj: Double-spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-24-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Marlin Rowley
said to All:-
MR>Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double spin
MR>drive in
MR> regards to a single spin drive when you are talking about running
MR>full-motion video that is compressed and plays back at whatever frame
MR>rate? It seems to me that it wouldn't make a difference since the
MR>compression technique allows the CD-ROM (single spin) to playback
MR>frames at a reasonable speed using a data transfer rate of 150k
MR>bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still run frame
MR>rates at the same speed? What is the difference between a SEGA CD and
MR>the computer CD's?
MR>
Your theory talks a walk in the real world, as the transfer rate from the
drive to the computer must be greater than the take-up rate of the
computer to avoid ugly pauses in the motion. Some software producers
attempt to overcome this limitation by a combination of two things:
1. Make the video action small (eg less pixels to update in the time
available)
2. run the animation at 15 frames/sec
an example of this technique is Mammals.
An alternative is for the authors to aim for users with better equipment,
such as 7th Guest. This program will only provide smooth pause-free
graphics if the cdrom drive is a double-speed one.
If you are using the drive on a BBS, save your money and buy a cheap
160kb/s drive, if not it's better to aim higher.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4165
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:05a
Subj: Xxx Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Brice
Fleckenstein said to Stewart Rothman:-
BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
BF>pictures....
Of course, that's where most of them come from...
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4166
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 4:13p
Subj: CD list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would appreciate a catalog of yours,
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks.........
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4167
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/27/93 4:15p
Subj: CD Cat.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please sent a catalog to me ---
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks...
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4168
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/28/93 12:02a
Subj: Pas16-Scsi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-24-93 David Ho wrote to All...
DH> What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or
DH> SCSI-II?
DH> Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM
DH> drive to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is SCSI-I
The Pro Audio Studio 16 is (I am informed) SCSI-II...
So the answer to your question is YES!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4169
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/28/93 8:20p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> One good thing about FM is that it offers custom sounds. Most
AS> wavetables don't because the patches are stored in ROM. The GUS
AS> however, because it stores patches on the HD, and caches them into
AS> the RAM on the card, can use custom wavetable patches. I sampled a
AS> sneeze the other day, and then Sequenced a song with it...
Well, with the Wave Blaster being a daughter card, I guess that C/L
can come up with "Son of W/B" having onboard RAM?? As I think I said
in earlier msgs, sound is, to me, a secondary consideration at the
moment....
AS> RE> The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for
AS> RE> CD-ROM control and the other for sound!
AS>
AS> How many have you got? How many do you need? I have seen some
AS> motherboards with 6 slots, here it *may* be an issue. Mine has 8, and
AS> most of the newer VLB jobs have 8ISA + 2VLB slots. What on earth are
AS> you gona put in 10 slots?
Well, I've got 8 on my M/b....
1. SVGA
2. Network
3. IDE/FDD card
4. I/O card
5. SB 16 ASP (& CD-ROM!)..
6. Tape B/u card
7. modem
8. bus mouse
The IDE/FDD is separate to the I/O as the original M/b had timing problems
with serial port interrupts and I never did get a multi I/O to replace it!
(gives 1 free!)....
AS> Also, how many Drives can you daisy chain off the SB? 3 isn't it?
Max of four.... But if you have a SCSI controller with 2 x HDD and tape
backup, then you can only install 4 SCSI CD-ROM drives too!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4170
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/28/93 8:29p
Subj: Drivers Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-25-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> RE> Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle
DM> RE> card similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and
DM> RE> source a kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
DM>
DM> Mention that a "kit" includes a paddle card to Creative and they will
DM> then swear up and down and all around that here on this side of the
DM> pond all their CD Roms are packaged to be only used with the SB's, and
DM> there are no paddle cards to be found. Also, the earlier drivers on
DM> the BBS made reference to the 562b/563, but the later updates now only
DM> mention the 563s. So I guess the marketing department has a little say
DM> in what goes on.
Yeah, well the silly b*ggers let a PICTURE of an OMNI kit loose in a
national newspaper ("The Australian") but didn't mention the kit! If I
wasn't so busy at work I'd go chase one!
Interesting you saying that later drivers only mention the CR563... I
managed (Compuserve) to get SBCD.SYS 4.11 which has a crude encryption
on the device name that it expects back (CR-563XXXX). Maybe C/L are
going to go down the road to ruin that so many others have trod? (If
you didn't buy it from us, we won't let you have the drivers!)...
BTW, the drivers on the local C/L BBS (CR562.ZIP) disappeared after a
few days on the BBS download list!
DM> Also, I have just been playing with the updated SB16 drivers which
DM> now allow dos apps to share the sound resources with windows, but I
DM> have to say that the update is more that a wee bit of a pain to
DM> install (files copy to dir type) and the doc, well, sparse is the
DM> word that comes to mind.
Installing these drivers is on my "to-do" list.... Maybe sometime
before the Sydney Olympics??? <g>
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4171
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/28/93 8:30p
Subj: Health & Safety Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Moore wrote to Rowan Evans...
CM> Hi Rowan
CM>
CM> RE> Snail Mail address is coming via netmail....
CM>
CM> Got it. I'm putting a package in the mail today, including
CM> CDSPEED.ZIP, as well as text information and diskette-based
CM> demos of our CD-ROMs.
Thanx mate, I'll let you know when they arrive!
Cheers!
o
/U\
CM> We're starting to get out of the beer season and heading toward irish
CM> coffee season. The trees are starting to change (i.e. the colour of
CM> the leaves). We had our first "frost warning" last night. It was 2
CM> degrees C when I got up this morning :( . About 17 and sunny now
CM> though. I haven't hauled out the winter clothes yet, but unfortunately,
CM> it won't be long!
I may break out the Swimming costume on the weekend!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4172
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:33p
Subj: Sony 535 Speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
BF> > companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics
BF> > type connector?".
BF>
BF> > The Adaptec techo's answer was -
BF>
BF> > "Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
BF>
BF> It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't
BF> use THAT defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
Well, Adaptec was sticking with the 50 pin connection via centronics
type plug to supply all pins (separate grounds, etc) and this is the
standard connector for SCSI on some minis....
As for Macs & SCSI..... Phooey!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4173
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:37p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
BF> > my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
BF> > set of speakers that will cope!
BF>
BF> Try running the audio output into a good preamp then into a
BF> good Carver amp and feed that into a pair of Infinity QRS or
BF> QLS speakers - THAT should handle your "loud" requirement easily!
BF>
BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
BF> KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE
BF> amp/speaker system....
This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country to
buy this type of gear....
The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle the
4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't when you wind the volume
up. I'm sorry I sold a 15W set of DAHW (yes, that is how it was written on
the box) amplified speakers when I left PNG... They would've been *IDEAL*
(and they only cost me 40 bucks!)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4174
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:38p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again, Again, Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > There are a lot of people with caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear
BF> > to be insecure enough to have to join in to beat on one guy who says
BF> > *NOT!*....
BF>
BF> Two guys, not just one....
Nice to see we agree on something!
;^)
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4175
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/28/93 8:39p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-25-93 David Ho wrote to Rowan Evans...
DH> 1cfvg4bhnjx,cn ,.../ nb /l
DH> hdfsgjsghklsdhjfg trrj4ut63p68uop4360436iterw
DH> hjkklfgglkhgfgklhj
I take it this is a personal message, so you have encrypted it!
Just advise me of the key and I'll answer your question on CD-ROMs!
(Or was it off-topic and that's why its encrypted!)... <g>
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4176
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 9:07p
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
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Hi Bob!
On 09-25-93 Bob Jackson wrote to Debbie Marantz...
BJ> DM> the market give impressive win bench marks but really fall short
BJ> DM> when used on a dos applications (especially the S3s).
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ> This is NOT entirely accurate! Call Steve Gibson's BBS (714) 362-8848
BJ> and download his video benchmark results. You'll find that the S3 '805
BJ> blew away everybody in DOS text handling. I use one for Windows and
BJ> DOS both and have no complaints. <EOT>
I won't argue, I'll just say that T7G notes that for S3 based cards
it'll only use MCGA mode.... That one note alone made me decide on an
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro instead of the Diamond Stealth Pro... Later
S3 cards are better than the initial batch, but I have bolted down
results (PC Labs BEnch V7.0) that shows that the S3 cards I have tested
(incl. an 805) are slower than the Cirrus Logic (5624) and ATI (68800)
windows accelerators in doing DOS...
You're happy with your S3, I'm in love with my 68800.... Have you tried
T7G on your system???
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4177
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:10p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Kevin Martin...
CD> Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer
CD> in the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in
CD> New Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
CD> Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
CD> under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
CD> under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand
CD> is dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in
CD> from Singapore.
I'm glad I bought mine from a Panasonic OEM here in Australia then!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4178
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/28/93 9:16p
Subj: Cd-Rom Questions Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Hi Bob!
On 09-21-93 Bob Hall wrote to Rowan Evans...
BH> RE> Sunny Sydney.......
BH>
BH> Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of
BH> Vegamite, a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of
BH> Billy Tea, and perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F.
BH> If my hands got dirty, I could use that wonderful Sard soap to
BH> wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for the land of enchantment.....
Ah, a man that sees the beauty of Australia.... When do you migrate??
Seeing as how FICDROM is still on the backbone, you can still moderate
it from Zone 3! <g>
BTW, we tend to drink Tooheys in Sydney... Its only those woosses from
north of the Tweed that drink fourex (rotten sods won our football
championship AGAIN! - Will the Toronto Blue Jays do it again in the
world series??)
BH> BOB
BH> :-)
BH> Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
This is the stuff dreams are made of! I wont tell if you don't! <g>...
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4179
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/28/93 9:18p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric!
On 09-21-93 Eric Eskam wrote to Rowan Evans...
EE> RE> OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
EE>
EE> Bless you. Any kind of shareware/game/sound/graphics etc.
EE> you were looking for out of the States? Anything non-computer
EE> related (I live right next to Las Vegas)?
How about a couple of showgirls? <g>.....
Seriously, I see a reference later in the echo to a shareware program
that runs under Windows and allows you to print CD-ROM jewel case
inserts... It doesn't seem to have migrated here yet... If you could
find a copy I'd be grateful!....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4180
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 9:20p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-21-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > The only differences listed between the CR562B and the CR503 are :-
BF>
BF> What is the DTR on the CR503 (not the Max rate, the CONTINUOUS rate)?
300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) that
goes to 330Kbps...
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS. Reply to your PS in FIHDCONF.... I'd love to read Damia's Children,
but will have to wait until it comes out in paperback... $A35.00 is
a bit much.... BTW have you met the great lady?? I had the privelege
when she was in Australia a few years ago....
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4181
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/28/93 9:24p
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ron!
On 09-20-93 Ron Findling wrote to Rowan Evans...
RF> > There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I
RF> > believe) that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other
RF> > things in DOS
RF> > while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
RF> > while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
RF> > DOS......
RF>
RF> Unless you've got *great* hardware, though, it'll be quite jumpy when
RF> doing things like disk access.
RF>
RF> One great advantage of OS/2 not many people know about is how it can
RF> multi-thread DOS apps. The INT_DURING_IO setting allows for sound
RF> card interrupts to still be serviced during disk accesses, something
RF> regular DOS is incapable of.
RF>
RF> This means that even on a slower computer one can still do disk access
RF> and still get *smooth* sound for DOS apps.
You miss the point of playing an audio CD under DOS.... the player merely
"starts" the audio CD playing from a selected track and then steps out
of the way... It doesn't provide an interface between the CD-ROM and the
sound card.... The CD plays directly to the sound card using the audio
connector, not via processor and memory....
But yes, a DX2/66 *IS* great hardware!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4182
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:28p
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo Chris!
On 09-21-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Rowan Evans...
CD> RE> o
CD> RE> /U\
CD>
CD> Yo! Rowan! I found ya!
CD>
CD> Now that we're not in the Windows conference...I cannot use non-SCSI
CD> drives. I MUST have SCSI interface drives (it's a compulsion).
See your doctor, he can rid you of those nasty things!
CD> Drives will be accessed simultaneously, not sequentially.
OK, so that rules out the Pioneer 6 players.....
CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
CD> interface.
CD>
CD> Ideas?
Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I've
seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
though (bummer....)... Look around in this echo for ads from some of the
dealers and see what deals they offer....
Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these suckers...
(one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4183
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:29p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-20-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously
TW> RE> ComputaMart)
TW> RE> in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
TW>
TW> RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
TW>
TW> RE> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
TW>
TW> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has a Sound
TW> Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have Sound Blaster
TW> 16s.
There are Discovery CD8 and Discovery CD16 kits.... CD16 specifies the
SB 16.....
TW> So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow... and I was
TW> gonna buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Yep! See above!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4184
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:31p
Subj: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tim!
On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
TW> RE> where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
TW>
TW> I may be getting a CD-ROM drive _very_ soon, hopefully a SB Premium
TW> pack or Discovery. Anyway, I believe I saw a pair of Labtec speakers at
TW> Pacific Microlabs Doncaster, Vic. <I'm not sure if they're the ones
TW> you want>. Ask Pacific Microlab to see if they have any. Personally, I
TW> prefer my own choice of Uniway speakers, though they cost more.
Thanx.... I'll call them!
I didn't mind some Taiwanese Unitone speakers... picked them up in
PNG cheap, but haven't seen a source for them here... (Blew one
away with a plug pack! 8^(....)
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4185
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:34p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-23-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> Is the CR562B better or worse than the CR563? I believe the 563 is
TW> included with the Creative Labs multimedia kits? At some places they
TW> put a 562(b) in place of a 563, and sell it for about $120 cheaper,
TW> so I imagine the 563 is better???
Same drive, different source (CR563 is C/L OEM model #)....
TW> RE> Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray
TW> RE> loading SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy
TW> RE> of the spex here and there are only minor differences between
TW> RE> the two....
TW>
TW> Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all?
TW> So it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre than
TW> a 562B and a 563?
I haven't actually used a CR503 (released around Christmastime), but all
my current benchmarks on SCSI CD-ROM drives have them as SLOWER than the
CR562b/CR563....
TW> Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't
TW> even have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
Cheer up! It gets worse when you *DO* have one!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4186
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:39p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW>
TW> RE> Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is
TW> RE> also a double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost
TW> RE> as much for the PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the
TW> RE> entire CL kit and, as its SCSI, its not as fast.... The
TW> RE> PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
TW> RE> doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in
TW> RE> T7G), but as you say, it costs more for less.....
TW>
TW> Hmm.... the PAS16 kit is not fast, and costs more for less? I was
TW> looking through a paper, and found PAS16, Philips CD-ROM (not
TW> NEC CDR) photo-cd ready (but I don't know about double-speed), Labtec
TW> speakers and 5 CDs including Comptons MPC encyclopedia for $790, which
TW> seems quite good! I'm seriously considering this kit after finding out
TW> more about the drive. (has to be double-speed!:)
The Philips drive is only single speed.... PC world had a "review" of
one a few months ago..... And the PAS16 in this kit is *NOT* the SCSI
PAS16 so you can't update just the CD-ROM drive (unless someone markets
a SONY AT-bus double speed drive)....
I had a PAS16/SONY CDU-31A... I was happy with the intro it gave me to
CD-ROMs, etc.... I was happier to sell it and buy another SB16 ASP/CR562B!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4187
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/28/93 9:41p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-22-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> RE> Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
TB> RE> Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
TB> RE> the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
TB> RE> the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
TB>
TB> it says that is supports SCD-521C/SCD-531C. From this I assume it
TB> doesn't support the CR-562B/CR563 drives. It's 11841 bytes uncompressed.
And you're using it with a CR562b?? RUN, don't walk, to Compuserve and
download the latest SBCD.SYS Version 4.11..... Its 13,000 odd bytes
when uncompressed!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4188
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/28/93 9:45p
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
On 09-23-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Rowan Evans...
BO> BO>> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
BO> >> ^^^
BO> >> Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive
BO> >> say 320ms in double speed mode?? <g>
BO>
BO> Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of me....one say's
BO> 340ms average access time, while the other say's 320ms average access
BO> time.
I thought I'd seen you advertise this drive at 320ms, So I thought I'd
slip this one in to see if you were awake! <g>
BO> Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both unit's, I
BO> pulled the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best quess would be to split
BO> the diffrence and say thier 330ms average access time.....grin -:)
BO>
BO> Have no idea as to why one say's one thing and the other states
BO> something else, I didn't print the books.....grin -:)
Yeah, well don't freak if you read a CR563 manual from C/L.... their spex
on access times are stuffed up but good! They list the double speed access
at 450ms and the single speed access at 350ms.... Its actually the other
way around!
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS I'm breathlessly awaiting your 0014 service! <g>
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4189
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/28/93 6:31p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
................
SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
PR1 = PIER1 PR2 = PIER2 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1 SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2 SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE MON = MONSTER DISC
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
---------------------------------------------------
>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR1 PR2 NO7 NO8 SS1 SS2 MON SC2 SV1 CDP SWO
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
............ etc etc
Hi Mike,
A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of duplicates
between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as "CD-ROM DUPLIATE
ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this - do you know any BBS
(preferable v32bis) which has it online, and the file name? Better still, do
you know if it is on any shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, Pier 1&2,
So Much Shareware 2&3, Software Vault II&Gold, Monster Disc II, Shareware
Studio II)
Thanks, much appreciated.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 4190
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/28/93 7:53a
Subj: Re: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Tony Stott was heard mumbling to Wayne Majors <=-
TS> Wayne, you missed my point; I care about caddies (I have about 30 of
TS> 'em myself), but one or two people here are doing the "King Arthur on
TS> the Crusades" ego trip, whereby anyone who doesn't agree with them is
TS> "an infidel" who should be put to the sword.. My plea was for a big
TS> reduction in the emotion, because it really isn't such a big issue.
"Oh Great God of the Caddy
I Implore Thee
What Doust Thou Recommend
To Caddy or Not to Caddy
Whence Came The Question ? "
... my tongue is firmly wedged in cheek ...
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 4191
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 09/27/93 1:57p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
SG> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG> to remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw
SG> Which BB do you have?
The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that means the
first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4192
To: TOMCAT Date: 09/28/93 1:58a
Subj: Add Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOMCAT control message = ADD
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 4193
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 8:37p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just for anyone who might be interested to know,
I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb vram
EISA version.... about the only card I know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score
100%...
Regards.
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 4194
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/20/93 2:05p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Janusz Surowka to Andre Queree <=-
JS> the SB16ASP is compatible /w all the SB cards, and I HAVE A GAME /W
JS> SUPPORT FOR THE SOUNDBLASTER 16ASP....Comprende, don't talk when you
JS> don't know what your talking about.
Don't butt in when you obviously haven't read the entire thread - if you had
you might know what we where talking about!!
In case you're interested, we were talking about compatability between the
SoundBlaster cards and the Pro Audio spectrum 16 bit card. The point made was
that the PAS is only compatible with the old 8 bit SoundBlaster, not the newer
stereo and/or 16 bit SoundBlasters.
If you leap into something head first with your eyes closed and your mouth
open, don't complain when you swallow a heap of #### !
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... The cost of feathers has risen... Now even DOWN is up!
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From: LUCKE BERGER Number: 4195
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 09/28/93 7:13p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
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>I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had yet!
>it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal
>CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's
>including MPC encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was
>on sale, and I got to use my 10% discound card I got with
>my Mongomery Wards credit card.
>it only cost me 350.00!
What kind of soundcard ?
Where did you buy this ?
I live in Sweden so you dont have to reply if they don't ship overseas...
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4196
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/27/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Okay, thanks for relaying my questions to the Amiga CD-ROM echo. It is
impossible to get any Amiga conferences here in Tacoma, Washington.
Not a whole lot of support here for any alternative platforms.
Even CD-ROM on an IBM is considered to be an "alternative" platform by most.
Water on the brain, I guess, from the constant rain. ;-)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4197
To: KEITH STEWART Date: 09/28/93 12:08a
Subj: Re: PC or MAC or Amiga versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
As long as the CD-ROM drives are true SCSI, they are not "brand specific".
GIF (Graphics Interchange Format) files should work on any computer. GIFs on
an IBM are supposed to be the same format on your Mac, etc.
I use the same .GIF files on several different computer types.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4198
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/28/93 11:17p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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-> I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
->
-> When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that
-> almost impossible to undertand them.
I have ran into that problem many times and it is always when the
customer has a Cirrus Logic Vesa Local Bus video card. After talking to
Virgin, I found that there IS a problem with Cirrus Logic VL card and a
fix is in the works but not to hold your breath! Sorry I dont have
better news for you.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4199
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/28/93 12:26a
Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE
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> BF> The ONLY drive that SBPro interface will handle is a
> BF> Panasonic/Matsushita unit designed specifically for that interface....
> I beg to differ... I have seen SB Pro used with a SONY CDU-31A CD-ROM.
Are you CERTAIN that the Sony was being run by the SB, as opposed to havign
just the AUDIO connected to the SB Pro?
> Also there is a later Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive
Precisely - a PANASONIC!
> was faster than an NEC CDU-55 and an NEC 74-1! (Both SCSI devices)....
Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with a somewhat
larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that CoreTest will give on a
drive or controller with a large buffer. The 563 appears to be a nice drive,
but the SUSTAINED DTR is the same as the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks
of data many times (256K or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR to be a lot faster,
as you're actually reading the BUFFER rather than the data on disc after the
first read....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4200
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/28/93 12:27a
Subj: DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are nervous....
> Sorry dude, you're thinking of New Zealand!
Not according to the original I was quoting....though BOTH countries might be
equally applicable to that quote?
8->
* SLMR 2.1a * An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4201
To: PETE CRESSWELL Date: 09/28/93 10:15a
Subj: GOOD MACINTOSH CDS?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Am about to put a couple more CD rom drives up and want to dedicate at least
>one of them to a Mac-oriented disk.
Garbo (Walnut Creek compilation from the Internet site by that name).
* SLMR 2.1a * If you would know a man, observe how your cat treats him.
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From: PAUL WALDINGER Number: 4202
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/28/93 12:42p
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
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-> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure Bacckups
-> BBS. I will even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary
-> get on in the San Diego, CA area.
Are you directing these messages to me for a specific reason?
..... Paul Waldinger.....SOM....Sysop......
... Smartnet International Host ....SOM New York......
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4203
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello Boris!
>> In a message to All <09/22/93> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO>> HACKER CHRONICAL - $18
BO>> DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.
>> Boris could you netmail me what is on these two cd roms im
>> interested in getting these two thanks .
On it's way....
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4204
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: The Black BOX Refer: NONE
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>> Hello Boris!
>> Well havent seen this echo in a while but has the black box
>> come out yet and could you send me more info on it my fido
>> netmail # is 1:290/17 and yes Boris does a good job.... just
>> a happy Boris customer....
Sorry, we decided not to handle the product after we were given a
new price that put it out the ball park of normal shareware cd's.
Thanks for the interest!
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4205
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
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>> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for
>> a copy.
Yes we do DAn and it's priced at $25.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4206
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
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>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
>> Is it true that the MPC-2 standard stipulates a minimum of
>> 320mS seek time??
According to our information, the drive is 320ms with a 300kps transfer
rate.
If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4207
To: MATT VOSE Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Looking for a CD-ROM that will work with a 386 CPU, 2 MEG ram,
>> DOS 6.0, Windows. Not looking to spend a fortune. Will pay UPS
>> charges. Guarantee needed. -Matt-
Got a ton of them here!
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be
glad to set you up.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: CHARLES HARPER Number: 4208
To: ERIC BOYLES Date: 09/27/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CONVERSION Refer: NONE
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> I would like to convert several gigs worth of data to CD-ROM. (1) Can
> anyone suggest a Minneapolis or at least a Minnesota based firm capable
> of converting my data ? (2) Is there anyone that specializes in
> conversion to CD-ROM ? (3) Lets dream for a minute -- does anyone have
> any suggestions regarding one of those CD-mastering machines that, from
> what I've heard, can write data to blank CD-ROM's ? I really appreciate
> any information and advice available on this topic. Thanks.
There are several places that will do it for around $1,000 to $1,500.00
for each disk since you say several gigs that could be over 10 disk so
figure around at least $10,000. for the cost.
You may do better by geting a machine to do it yourself. They run
around $4,000. plus depending on what you are looking for.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 4209
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/28/93 7:28p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Paul Collier to Pat Rickerson <=-
PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it
PC> you're serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd
PC> that you can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference
PC> Library" ? Not a bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some
PC> good stuff 8-)
What is $A65 in American money??? :)
Steve
... Is it 1996 yet?
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
* Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120.0)
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4210
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 09/29/93 1:23a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi yall,
->
-> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Does
-> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
->
-> Thank's
-> Roel
->
->
-> --- WM v3.01/93-0821
-> * Origin: Video ViSion * Mail:sarceno@citrus.sac.ca.us (1:203/1316.
-> 322/327
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IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and add
the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
PATH E:\X01
and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
Anytime..Est Time...
--- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 10-26-93
* Origin: CATSEYE BBS (908) 525-0593 (1:107/659)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4211
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/28/93 6:58p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
CW> Do you still have this available, if so I will take it...
Sorry, Chris. It sold right away. Thanks anyway.
Jim...
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* Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4212
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/28/93 7:30p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Night Owl 9 $24.00
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4213
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/28/93 7:12p
Subj: Re: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>OK, Let's talk. Can you tell me a little about the encyclopedia ie.
>name, MPC/MM etc. etc. I'm also looking for Sherlock Holmes Consulting
>Detective. Would you know where I could get my hands on this (at a
>reasonable price) ?
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our complete list.
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4214
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HERED Date: 09/27/93 5:07p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
/q
-> > Que te parece el The 7th Guest > Dejame un mail por aqui y dime de
-> donde hablas...
-> > * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey > Mxico]
-> (4:971/1)
-> Hola Roberto.
-> Te vas a quedar un poco frio, pero te llamo desde Espaa, al otro lado
-> del charco. Mi direccion de nodo es 2:341/12.5 de la BBS CORBEN en
-> Madrid.
->
-> Contestando a si estoy interesado en el "The 7th Guest", claro que
-> si, lo que pasa es que no se como vamos a hacer las cosas.
->
-> Por cierto, hace poco que me case, y estuve en Mexico, tipico sitio
-> CANCUN, no estubo mal, pero dime tu opinion No es todo lo que
-> se ve un poco distinto de la realidad?.
-> Tambien fui a COZUMEL, por cierto un lugar precioso, pero como no
-> sabia nada de Mexico, lo hice mal. Me pase mas tiempo en CANCUN que
-> en COZUMEL. Conoces COZUMEL o a alguien de alli?.
->
-> Saludos. Alex.
->
-> ---
-> * Origin: (2:341/12.5)
Is this a code or are you spanish or something?
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* Origin: Winnipeg PC UG BBS - Winnipeg, Mb. (204) 334-8800 (1:348/204)
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4215
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/27/93 5:10p
Subj: Cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen it as 25 U.S.
/s
-> I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
-> use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education
-> (mostly games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen
-> it is $39, can anyone out there top that?
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: Winnipeg PC UG BBS - Winnipeg, Mb. (204) 334-8800 (1:348/204)
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4216
To: JAY HENRY Date: 09/27/93 11:47p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 25 Sep 93 Jay Henry wrote to me:
JH> CD-ROM's are normally SCSI. The CD32 uses a Sony CD-ROM with
JH> Commodore microcode technology - it IS a SCSI device. Why else would
JH> AmigaDOS 3.1, which is included with the CD32, have a SCSI_CD-ROM file
JH> system?
Thanks for the information. I think it would be a great idea if non-Amiga
owners could hook up a CD32 to their computers. Let's hope Commodore makes
it possible. (yeah right) ;-)
Gary
... Pirating taglines is wrong!
--- Spot 1.1 Unreg.
* Origin: The Enigma System, A600HD - Canada - (1:348/706.2@FidoNet)
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4217
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:33a
Subj: CD^32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA_CDROM' (AMIGA_CDROM)
* Original message dated 24 Sep 93, from Ian Gunn
CD^32
I thought I would help clarify what kinds of expansion the CD^32
has. There are 4 places where the CD^32 can expand externally
and one internally.
Externally:
- 2 game ports - expandable to having 8 joysticks per port
- keyboard connector - serial connection and keyboard (A4000 keyboard
plugs right in)
- 180 pin connector - plug anything into it (expansion boxes, GVP's
A530 type boxes etc)
(imagine any disk drives, accelerators, memory expansion, serial,
parallel, etc could be brought out of this expansion)
Internally:
- this one is specialized, it's for CBM's MPEG board
... Drop your carrier, we have you surrounded.
--- Spot 1.1 Unreg.
* Origin: The Enigma System, A600HD - Canada - (1:348/706.2@FidoNet)
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4218
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/28/93 10:05p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD>"Panasonic" no longer markets or promotes Matsushita CD-ROM drives. Wh
CD>you request literature on these drives, they send you a packet on opti
CD>drives ("flopticals") but nothing on CD-ROM hardware.
CD>
CD>More to follow....
I spoke to one of their sales reps who told me the following:
Panasonic no longer markets Matsushita CD-ROM drives in the US. They are
sold under OEM contract to bulk purchasers like Creative Labs. Panasonic
does little to control what these purchasers do with the drives.
Additionally, there are drives imported independently from places like
Singapore and distributed to retailers here.
Panasonic *also* feels no need to police the market and prevent resellers
from inaccurately using the Panasonic name when advertising the Matsushita
drives they carry.
"Panasonic" drives currently bought in the United States are NOT subject
to Panasonic service, technical, or warranty support. The reseller must
provide such services if needed.
That's what the man said...
Sounds pretty sloppy to me. I guess they sent all the Japanese managers
back to Osaka. <G>
--- WinQwk 2.0b#995
--- QM v1.26/a
* Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360)
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4219
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/28/93 9:21p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tony Davis beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
TD>Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
TD>
TD>In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers an
TD>modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
TD>when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm and
TD>confiscated his sophisticated commercial computer bulletin board
TD>system. Authorities allege Davis was selling pornographic computerize
TD>materials on CD-ROM and through files downloaded over phone lines.
It's about time this SMUT got cleaned up! Now, who can give me the best
price on Asian ladies and Busty babes??
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#743 * The "Fairness" Doctorine: Liberal Socialist CENSORSHIP!
--- WM v3.01/91-0114
* Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0)
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From: MATT SMULSKY Number: 4220
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 10:15p
Subj: Insufficient Memory Error Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Been running So Much Shareware 3 with no problem , until I had to replace my
power supply. Now when I run it under DOS I get and error when I try to UNZIP a
file. PKUNZIP
(84) Insufficient Memory. If I use WINDOWS it allows me to Unzip a file but it
seems to take longer than it use to . I run QEMM 7.0 and I have 634K free.
HELP !! Any Suggestions ???????
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* Origin: Bad Attitude BBS - Erie, PA - (814)864-1230 (1:2601/565)
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 4221
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 3:49p
Subj: looking for Publishers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for CDROM Publishers with new CDROMs
please send detailed information about your work to:
Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich / GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429
cis: 100116,3315
Nodelistirregularities here in Germany, please do not send fidomail
bye
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 4222
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/27/93 11:27a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
> 1) I am opposed to the removal of adult material. You know as well as
> anyone that CD-ROMs as a media would not be where they are without
> those discs as a motivator to buy a drive.
I think its better without X-Rated here because it is annoying some
people.
> 2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
you can do CDROM ads as long as they are limited to 10 lines.
> this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
I (from Germany) will make you a good offer with Netmail, so you dont
have to worry about it.
> If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
> this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
the CDROM_SALE echo is already available here in Germany.
bye
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* Origin: Monster Point 1290 (2:246/4.1290)
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 4223
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 2:53a
Subj: Mitsumi Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I heard there was a new Double Spin Mitsumi... anyone have the specs?!
Shaka!
... I've never been dead before...
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: DEAN DROLET Number: 4224
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/25/93 11:38p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB>TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB>FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
NB>E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB>ADDRESS!!!!
Send me a catalog @1:342/47 via FIDO or at
ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca via Internet...
Your prices are some of the best that I have seen so far..
Dean
* QMPro 1.50 42-7570 * You will become rich and famous unless you don't.
--- WM v3.01/92-0210
* Origin: The BORG! BBS 10 Nodes Edmonton, AB (1:342/47.0) (1: (1:342/47.0)
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From: DEAN DROLET Number: 4225
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/25/93 11:44p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CG>The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not work in
CG>a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4 different
CG>motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will work in
CG>a 386 no problem.
We have run into a problem on booting the computer with a CD in the
drive at boot up time...if the drive is empty the problem goes away...We
had the same symptoms before like you described but fixed it by making
sure that the drive is empty.
Dean
* QMPro 1.50 42-7570 * I can't be out of money! I have checks left!
--- WM v3.01/92-0210
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 4226
To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Date: 09/28/93 7:47a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for this new drive, where did you get such a great deal, any info
on the drive's performance would also help. I have the SbPro2 and the old cd
drive it came with.. Thanks
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: =] Animal House [= 915-942-9350 (1:383/300)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 4227
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/28/93 12:07a
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stephen Gupton wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
SG> In a msg on <Sep2614:21, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes:
SG> Any plans for releasing a updated version of Cream Of
SG> The Crop?
YESSS ! There will be a Christmas 93 edition available in less
than one month. There will be NO files older than April 93...
NOT even inside the archives!!! (There are a few exceptions like
the stand alone database programs that require BRUN45 and some
program that were upgraded and still use their original setup
program.) It will have automatic and instant setup for several
bbs program AND the file view and the retrieval front end program
for stand alone use will have many new options. The files will
have extended descriptions, most of which are extracted from the
File_id.diz provided by the author. In order to make the best
use of the space available on a cd the following classifications
of programs are not included: Sexual explicit (adult) material,
pictures, clip art, gifs, programming OTHER than C, Pascal and
ASM, windows icons, windows games, bbs utilities specific for a
single BBS, BBS games, macintosh and unix operating systems.
Thank you for your inquiry.
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4228
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TD>Critics also say police over reached in grabbing Davis' entire system,
TD>shutting down his pay-for-play computer service, because of four CDs.
Go get 'em Tony! I know you will prevail in this blatant injustice,
just hang in there!
.\\ike
---
* SLMR 2.1a * In my opinion, your opinion stinks. Any opinion on that?
--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4229
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w CD......$35
CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x s/w!.$29
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4230
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: A FEW CD TITLES . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
7th Guest.....................39.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl 10.0 (Pre-orders)...35.00
Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........55.00
CD Winbox.....................25.50 Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
C User's Group Library........31.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!
--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: TOM NIELAND Number: 4231
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:58a
Subj: teac cd rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a teac cd rom that Im having trouble setting up for use in os2
its not supported and I would like to have some help installing it with os2
my system is a 486dx33 vlb with a pas 16 scsi interface and cd-50 teac cdrom
help please thanks in advance
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA <619-558-9475> (1:202/354)
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 4232
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/29/93 1:18p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Sam!
In a message to All <09/27/93> Sam Beckwith wrote:
SB> DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
SB> BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
SB> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.00
SB> SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.00
SB> SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.00
Can you send me more info on what is on these nightowl v10?
* WCE 1.10/2159 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4233
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/26/93 12:50p
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Try Sole Source Systems. The caddys are $4.75 Each in quantities of 3 or more,
and
they have some reasonable prices on CD's.
Sole Source Systems
8248-B Ronson Road
San Diego, CA 92111
Voice 619-467-0661
BBS 619-467-0666
... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4234
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 12:51p
Subj: PIONEER CD MAGAZINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Check out Service Merchandise. I have purchased 3 packs of these cd cartriges
for $25.00
Regards,
Neil Ripston
... (hic) BWave 2.10 (hic) BWave 2.10 * My computer is drunk ...
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4235
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 12:52p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me the catalog.
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Dr.
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 4236
To: RHEZA JINA Date: 09/26/93 6:24p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rhéza,
RJ--> First of all, I've heard that Walnut Creek had legal
RJ--> problems with this CD
RJ--> because of copyright violations.
RJ--> It contains 6,000+ images (on the cover, it says 5,000 but
RJ--> there are more
RJ--> than 6,000), in 42 categories (art, aviation, cars,
RJ--> flowers, mammals,
RJ--> people, swimsuit, etc...). There are also viewers for DOS,
RJ--> Amiga, Mac,
RJ--> Unix, etc... Total 600 MB.
I never noticed that until you pointed it out.
RJ--> In my opinion, this CD is not very good. Although there
RJ--> are some very good
RJ--> images, many others are not interesting at all. In fact,
RJ--> it seems that
RJ--> they tried to fill the disk with all the images they could
RJ--> find (including
RJ--> many that were copyrighted...). But the CD is cheap, so
RJ--> perhaps it's worth,
RJ--> but I'm not sure.
Yeah, the only reason why I bought it was because of the $15 for it. I
thought for $15 I couldnt even download 6,000 GIFs on a 14.4 on LD. So, it is
pretty neat to have.. The bad part, no descriptions! <arrghh!!>
Thanks for the reply!
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
ps.. I can make the é! :)I was wondering when I could use those ASCII codes!
<grin>
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4237
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CANADIAN SUPPLIER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
Call JANA Publishing 1-800-363-2083, located in Canada.
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■ QMPro 1.50 00-1232 ■ Youth is wholly experimental.
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4238
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
How about a price on Night Owls 10?
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■ QMPro 1.50 00-1232 ■ Crime DOES pay! Ask any politician!
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4239
To: JOHN WILKINSON Date: 09/29/93 11:05a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Hi yall,
-> ->
-> -> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Do
-> -> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
-> ->
-> -> Thank's
-> -> Roel
-> ->
-> ->
-> -> --- WM v3.01/93-0821
-> -> * Origin: Video ViSion * Mail:sarceno@citrus.sac.ca.us (1:203/13
-> -> 322/327
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
->
-> IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
-> WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and
-> the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
->
-> I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
->
->
-> FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
-> PATH E:\X01
->
-> and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
->
-> If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
-> Anytime..Est Time...
--- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 10-26-93
* Origin: CATSEYE BBS (908) 525-0593 (1:107/659)
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From: DEAN BUXTON Number: 4240
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 5:56p
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack CDR-1000's
According to the specs on the drive the capacity is 552 Meg.
Most of the newer CD's coming out these days are averaging
about 600-650 Meg. Will these drives be able to read these
larger disks or did I waste my money?
I suppose I could return the drives but because I have not yet
purchased and CD's yet I'd like to know before-hand.
Thanks in advance for a reply.
Dean
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* Origin: Jacob's Ladder (813)541-1896 16.8k DHST (1:3603/270.0)
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 4241
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:30p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the sequel
to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I talked to Graeme Devine
(lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a few months ago, and he said they
were shooting to release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be
most appreciated.
Jason
P.S. I have NOT finished the game yet. Stuck on the virus puzzle. I think
it is similar to Othello, but then again, I don't play that many board games.
:-)
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4242
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 10:50p
Subj: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Night Owl's #10 will be available sometimes next week and we are taking
preorders for $20 plus $3 shipping USA $5 international.
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards and COD, checks accpeted.
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* Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:1-206-473-1634 (1:138/116)
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From: CLARKE ULMER Number: 4243
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:40p
Subj: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September
22, 1993
FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
The Movie BBS/Clarke Ulmer Jr.
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
Data: (718) 939-5462
Voice: (718) 321-3551
PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
After breaking new ground in the Bulletin Board System world four years
ago
this month, The Movie BBS now releases the first in a series of Actor
and
Actress CD-ROMs.
Having earned a reputation for high quality computer graphics, The Movie
BBS
now presents a collection of original photos of your favorite actresses
and
actors. Photos include publicity, candid, portrait, "cheesecake" and
"beefcake" poses. You'll see your favorite celebs as never before from
early in their careers to the present.
300 PHOTOS
The disc contains a total of 300 digital reproductions of actual
photographs
in 256 color GIF file format. Some of the celebrities include:
Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Eastwood, Sybil Danning, Sean Connery, Harrison
Ford,
Michael Douglas, Joan Collins, Melanie Griffith, Apollonia, Robert
Mitchum,
Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Rock Hudson, Mark Hamill,
William
Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Raquel Welch, Linda Hamilton, Jenny Agutter,
Nastassja
Kinski, Deidre Hall, Pam Grier, Tony Randall, Henry Fonda, John Wayne,
Jodie
Foster, Michael Caine, Tina Louise, Marta Kristen, Angela Cartwright,
Kristy
Swanson, Christian Slater, Marilyn Monroe, Sylvester Stallone, Caroline
Munro,
Robert Redford, Elizabeth Taylor, Farrah Fawcett and many, many more!
PHOTO QUALITY
All images are photo quality and viewable on a variety of systems (DOS,
MAC,
etc.). The novelty of these images will appeal to collectors and movie
fans!
REQUIREMENTS
System requirements for viewing images are a CD-ROM drive, CD-ROM
driver software and a VGA or higher display. A customized interface for
DOS
and Windows is included as well as Shareware viewers for DOS, MAC, etc.
DEALERS
Dealers/Vendors/Distributors, there is an AUTO-DISPLAY function built-in
that
continuously displays images. This can be used for in-store/window
setups to
attract customers.
ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO.1 is available directly from
The Movie BBS for $39.95 (US Funds), add $3.00 for shipping and
handling.
Make checks or money orders to:
Clarke Ulmer/The Movie BBS
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
The Movie BBS can also be contacted on the following online services:
CompuServe as 76605,2173, DELPHI as THEMOVIEBBS, America Online as
ClarkeU,
GEnie as C.ULMER1 and Prodigy as CLARKE ULMER
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* Origin: Cyclone BBS! "Taking the World by Storm!" (1:3607/2.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4244
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/28/93 11:13a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Russell Hardie <=-
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer
v1.0
MS> That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @
MS> 509-457-0206. Good little utility!
I'ma gonna be comin' to git it myseff.
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 4245
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 4:37p
Subj: PC DOS 6.1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I have a Panasonic 501B which has been working flawlessly on the bbs with MSDOS
6.0. Just got PC DOS 6.1, and find that it doesn't have a MSCDEX file. Anyone
using this "supposedly" better dos with a cdrom? (And if so, how?)
CR
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* Origin: The Foundation BBS * 700+ Meg * 817-444-0155 (1:130/25)
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From: MIKE PELLETIER Number: 4246
To: ANYONE WHO CAN HELP Date: 09/25/93 9:50p
Subj: CD-ROM: writing to them Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I could get files (presently on my hard drive) written
to CD-ROM? I am pretty sure I would have to pay some professional, do you
know who might offer this service?
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* Origin: Silver Lake Systems / 206-338-3723 / Everett, WA (1:343/58)
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4247
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:42a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
EF> I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it
EF> may be easier to deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs
EF> etc.
EF> Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
Me too. But forget about the "adult" CDs; in those I have no interest. Cheers,
Pam
--- timEd/B8
* Origin: A Brand new FTN System! (1:153/602.1)
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4248
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:44a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
So do I. How about occasional posts from anyone who has a CD s/he particularly
likes, telling us about it and why they like it? Most of the titles I see here
for sale are meaningless to me, and catalogues don't seem to say much; anyway
the motive is to sell it whether you like it or not. Does anyone know anything
about Delorme's Global Explorer, specifically?
Cheers,
Pam
--- timEd/B8
* Origin: A Brand new FTN System! (1:153/602.1)
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 4249
To: CARL GRAHAM Date: 09/28/93 1:14p
Subj: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ref. Pro_phone 93, If you still have the set please
replay. Sould you describe the business related disk.
I may be interested.
Thanks Mike
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* Origin: The Genesis BBS Martinez, GA =706-868-9005= (1:360/12)
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4250
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 8:15p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Marlin Rowley wrote to Peter Lasne about AMIGA CD ROM..:
MR> I was just wanting to know if there is an Amiga CD ROM
The only CD-ROMs sold directly by Commodore-Amiga are the A570,
which connects to the side of an Amiga 500; the CDTV, which can
easily be PARNET'ted to your Amiga; and the new CD32, which
doesn't yet have the expansion module which might let you hook
it up to another system, but which is the world's first 32-bit
game console.
If you have a SCSI interface (as almost all Amigas have for
hard-drive interfaces), you can plug in almost any SCSI CDROM
and use it. You will need one of the CD filesystems available,
such as Anim-FS or whatever it's called.
A CD32 module for the A1200 and one for the A4000 are promised,
and should be available sometime next year.
--Glenn...
... Hello, I am part number │║▐║│║│█│║▌│║▌││.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: Take a "Byte" out of BBSing ... Byte Junction BBS (1:3625/463.0)
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From: MARK KELLY Number: 4251
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 3:10p
Subj: XXXcd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like a list of the nastiest cd-roms out there. bb1 is not bad. but i
want something very interesting (purely gross.<G> I know I have a sick mind but
oh well. I would like all price lists
Thanx
Mark
... τÖÖ ┌┬┐ûÇ├┐ $εx Å⌠⌠ε¢τ$ ¥ÖÜr εÿε$íg├┐τ....
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- VFIDO 6.10.03
* Origin: Channel Island (1:392/8)
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4252
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/28/93 2:23p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->3:772/295.0
Russell Hardie wrote
>>number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very greatful (preferably v32bi
----------------------------------------
First, what do you have your sound buffer set to in your config.sys.
(Should be set to about 25 or higher). Might want to try that, I kept
getting a sound buffer overflow and I changed it to 40 and the problem
stopped.
Lee Christopher Wise
---
■ TLX v3.00 ■ Constant change is here to stay.
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff096/a]
* Origin: SelectiveSource(1:275/102)VirginiaBeach,VA 804 471 6776
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From: ROBERT WALKER Number: 4253
To: DAVID FATTAHIAN Date: 09/27/93 7:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW> In a recent note you write...
DF> CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after
DF> CD> a merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if
DF> CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
DF> CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
RW> I called Creative Labs about compatible EXTERNAL CD ROM drives for
RW> my SB16 w/ ASP card and do they make them or sell them. Yes the sell
RW> a proprietory model (no EXTERNAL,big $) and another model CR521 or
RW> CR523 from Panasonic(not listed at Merisel).
RW> Those who know read this echo and I was hoping someone can
RW> make a recommendation for the best route to go to upgrade my
RW> system. I want an external drive because I want an external drive
RW> BUT if necessary I'll upgrade my box and accept any advice
RW> concerning an internal CD drive. I would like to read Kodak and be
RW> MPC (II) ? compliant. I would like to be able to play CD audio disks
RW> while computing. I already spent BIG bucks for the ASP card and I
RW> am interested in knowing what other SB16 players did in other
RW> configurations and how they worked out. I have a 16 bit slot
RW> available.
RW> If you've had a particularly good experience with a
RW> combination similar to the above, please respond in this echo.
___
X SLMR 2.0 X We all live in a yellow subroutine.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:134/17)
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4254
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 7:12a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It is a full-motion video, 75 minutes, interactive CD-ROM. It has
12 dancers (explicit nudity). You can select the girl, a song, run the
whole thing, or just watch parts of the CD. It's got great R & R music
in full stereo. Hope that answers your question.
Neil
--- Maximus 2.00
* Origin: The Inglewood RoofTop BBS (1:102/535)
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 4255
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/27/93 3:21a
Subj: Cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
CB>use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education (mostly
CB>games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen it is $39,
CB>can anyone out there top that?
How about The 1990 Time Magazine Almanac for $18 including shipping.
===
* QMPro 1.50 41-4216 * Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
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* Origin: Pics OnLine! Systems Fido/Usenet 609/753-2540 (1:266/22)
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 4256
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 09/25/93 11:27p
Subj: Shareware Studio III Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VS> **** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
VS> this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
Hi vince, I'm interested in getting a catalog. I always think that it is
better to support the in Canada groups. If you are a rep of this company
please forward me the BBS. This is my address
Mike Munnelly
Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
K0H 2W0
Thanks Much.
Mike
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* Origin: DarkStar Systems * Kingston, Ont. (1:249/1)
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From: CHARLES CARTER Number: 4257
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/25/93 8:21p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Soph!
Answering a msg of <17 Sep 93>, from Soph Petrou to All:
No you can not ,we spent all last weekend trying to do this with two cards.You
need a scsi card and scsi CD Rom to be able to hook the CD's in a chain.
Charles
ttyl
--- GoldED 2.41
* Origin: The Main Bridge BBS Welland Ont (1:247/312)
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4258
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/30/93 6:32p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: 6669
Read: NO Private: No
-> Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
-> you know if it is on any shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, P
It's on Shareware Studio III (CDDA10.ZIP)...
tim
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4259
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/29/93 7:52a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
27 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
I will offer $130 512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4260
To: WENDELL KENNEY Date: 09/29/93 7:05p
Subj: Simms/Recived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wendell!
Recived the simms today, thanks. I have already used some and they are great!
Thank you again, from my son!
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 4261
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/29/93 7:15a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> You forgot about the rest of the world <g>.
LB> This is an International Echo.
It is? Sorry, I didn't know that. :)
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: PowerSurge BBS; Gibsonville NC USA; 919-449-3367 (1:151/2302)
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 4262
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/29/93 10:07p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks for the advice -- I haven't seen it, I've just been extremely impressed
by World Book over the years!
Nancy
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* Origin: Icarus (319)337-9878 SDS/UTILNET/WINnet/DVNet/OS2 (1:283/657)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4263
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:44p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have enough base
memory. Do you need dos6 to get it to run? By the time I load the drivers,
I'm down there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going, It's
my first disk I own!
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4264
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/29/93 8:49p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I just baught a dual spin panasonic drive today.. and it was cheap.. so
what gives? am I screwed ou tof a waranty? Or what? What does this mean?
Anyone?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4265
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:55p
Subj: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If anyone out there uses the program "terminate" for communications, how do you
get it to place audio cd's? I've pressed alt-F10 and it comes up with
"Mscdex.exe must be installed" Where do i get this file? Why don't I have
it? Anyone?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4266
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:21p
Subj: Panasonic drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone quickly tell me the model numbers of the Panasonic drives? And if
possible the specs on them too? rate of transfer and access time that is..
thanx
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: DUANE SUTTON Number: 4267
To: MARK ROEDEL Date: 09/29/93 9:12p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send a copy of your free catolog to:
Duane Sutton
115 Cherren Dale Drive
Warner Robins, GA 31088
Later,
Duane
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4268
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 11:37p
Subj: Re: S3 (Slow) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Before I purchased my CD Rom, my Stealth VRAM satisfied my VGA requirements.
But since then I have upgraded to a TSENG ET4000/W32 LB VGA adapter. Now for
the comparison, my STEALTH will do an astounding 14xx bytes per millisecond at
640*480*256 where as my ET4000/W32 will do 90xx bytes per millisecond at the
same resolution in Dos (using a program called VidSpeed). Also, the S3 based
boards also will slow considerably when measuring text vrs graphics modes,
where as the TSENG shows a solid 90xx regardless of which mode is being
accessed. Under Windows, the VRAM clocks in a 7.x Win Marks, where as the TSENG
clocks at 15.x, which is slightly faster than the newer S3 offerings. And in
real use the differences are noticable. Using AutoDesk Animator Pro Windows
Animation Player the STEALTH would really lag and you could see the data
updating to the screen, where as no such problem exists on the TSENG. True the
TSENG is LB but I have tried other VGA boards, and a PARADISE Windows
Accelerator shows the same type of constant through put as the TSENG, abeit,
slower, 39xx bytes per millisecond, text to graphics using a standard ISA
connection.
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* Origin: Cobalt's Haven (204) 832-9603 BINK/MAX/SQU/OS2 (1:348/402)
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4269
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/29/93 12:09a
Subj: VidSpeed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From what I have been reading T7G is really showing which VGA card can and
which cannot. My STEALTH was a real disappointment, where as the TESENG
ET4000/W32 easily scored 100% optimum in T7G (the card clocks in at 90xx bytes
per millisecond using vidspeed). What I find interesting is that the ATI ULTRA
PRO should have no problem as it is also a fast Dos VGA adapter, at least
according to PC mags recent article 32 Windows Accelerators. It clocked in at
7.30 Million Operations per Second, but I have not had the chance to have one
in system and do a comparison between it and the TSENG. As for through put on
the CD, mine is a whopping 150K (C31A) but with the TSENG it does seem faster
as I was loading AutoDesk Animator Pro files off their CD and there was no
noticable lag, but alas, I do see a time in the near future that I will make
the jump to a faster CD Rom. I am just waiting to see what the new IDE CD Roms
will do, and GateWay is supposed to have one in the works, so time will tell.
Now, again you have sparked my curious side, why is the Panasonic CD Roms
hooked the SBs having such good throughput numbers. 58x plus is almost that of
a Quad Speed, which the drive is supposed to not be. And from the pin out of
the AT interface in the Sbs, nothing special there either. Hmmmmm, wonder what
magical voodoo stuff is a happening or is the throughput program just skewed up
?
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 4270
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> On 23 Sep 93 15:05:00, I heard Stewart Rothman shout to All:
>SR> I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S
Bob's Free Spirit
>SR> Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 $12.00
>SR> Guiness Disc of Records.................... 19.00 15.00
>SR> USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
>SR> Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 19.00
>SR> Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 89.00
>SR> CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 50.00
>
>KP> See second column.....How's That for Saving ???
>KP> Their number is 1-800-638-5757 They do except Visa/Mastercharge
Thanx for your answer, but I got an answer and ordered them from Boris for
$198.00 and he does take Visa-MC as well. Stu
--- FD 2.00
* Origin: ALASKAN SOURDOUGH,Rothman's LENS UNLIMITED,Fbks (1:355/38.6)
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From: JOHN RUIZ Number: 4271
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 3:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>-> PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
>-> Shipping is 5.00
For Sale: CICA Microsoft Windows CDROM August 1993.
ISO-9600 Format: your price $27.90 including s/h USA MAIL
Thousand of programs for Microsoft Windows from the CICA
Collection. Utilities, programing tools, fonts,icons,technical
documents, games, demos, ect.
This disc is an indispensable resouce for any MS Windows users.
I am not a MS windows user. Interested leave E-mail or call
206 226-2018 day/weekend PDT
John
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4272
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/28/93 9:58a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
lets just get the story of panasonic correct. Panasonic is still making CD-Rom
drive but not with their name on it. They are making it for OEM like Creative
Labs and so on. So don't worry if you have a Rom drive from them
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4273
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/28/93 10:04a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can I send you my address for a catalog too. Dave Wong, 2504 S ferdinand,
Seattle, WA 98108. thanks
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From: DAVE REED Number: 4274
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/28/93 10:31p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony!
Monday September 27 1993 11:23, Tony Davis wrote to All:
TD> In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
TD> modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
TD> when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm
Why is it that all you guys who run illegal systems set yourselves up with
dummy publishing firms in order to TRY and protect yourselves from the laws
that the rest of us are expected to abide by? It never ceases to amaze me that
every time the police crack down on illegal boards, the SysOps scream, "Hey
that's not fair... I'm a publisher... you can't do this to ME!!!!"
Booo Hoooo
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4275
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/28/93 5:22a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>well, I got not too many games, hey you know since I cal different
AB>boards which are netted together, I have to answer some of your message
AB>more than once or some old message just pops up, like this one, anyway I
AB>ain't go much to say. TTYL.
Yeah, I had that problem on one board. What I do is on the local ones I
call often I use Henry Paul. On the ones I don't call often I put my
middle initial in so I don't get duplicate messages... It was nice to
hear from you again though! Do you like my tagline? I thought it up
myself!
BTW- What is Day of the Tentacle?
* OLX 2.1 TD * I am G.Bush of BORG. Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent
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From: JR PEPPERGRASS Number: 4276
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/26/93 9:53a
Subj: Re: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I sure will Don......how about advertising our BBs here in South Bend,
Indiana....Home of Notre Dame Football. Max Baud rate of 14.4, 5 lines and big
Amiga File areas. Our telephone number is 219-288-8483 Peppergrass Express.
-JR Peppergrass
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From: JOHN DAGES Number: 4277
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:41p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The Tentacle, it's an
incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
thanks!
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4278
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:01p
Subj: WC2 Deluxe Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
Mark
>> Mark
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4279
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:02p
Subj: WC2 Deluxe Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
Mark
>> Mark
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From: MICHAEL KUTHNING Number: 4280
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 11:09p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
I would like to receive a copy of your catalog.
Could you please mail it to:
Michael Kuthning
Fruehlingstrasse 82
27570 Bremerhaven
West-GERMANY
Thanks in advance...
.\\ichael
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From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 4281
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 7:42a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I've
seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
Thanks,
Alex Mottram
##Mmr 2.46#.
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON Number: 4282
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 2:32p
Subj: Hitachi CDR3500 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a used Hitachi CDR-3500. If you know where I can find one
please let me know. Thanks!
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From: CHRIS MASON Number: 4283
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/30/93 6:04a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Why does your BBS echo all these messages again ???
-> I hope you are prepared to pay the excess phone bills for all those
-> international and national feeds.
-> In this packet alone I counted 64 messages retransmitted by your syst
-> Please check and fix your config.
->
-> Laurie
->
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Its fixed already. Geez never seen people get so upset about
a few dupe messages. Cry why don't ya.
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 4284
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/29/93 9:52p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, this is.... uh... different. There must be two people with the same name
on this BBS. I keep reading mail about CD-ROMs and other neato stuff that I
never wrote... veddy intelesting...
RLP
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4285
To: JEFF NEWMAN Date: 09/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Re: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry about the date....I should have said 1993....OPPS!!!
As far as interactive:
You can pick a girl to watch (with your mouse.)
Pick a song and a girl.
Watch the whole thing.
For full-motion video that's about state of the art!!
It's not a game...It's adult entertainment!
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4286
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/26/93 10:33a
Subj: Double-spin needs for a game? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double
MR> spin drive in regards to a single spin drive when you are
MR> talking about running full-motion video that is compressed
MR> and plays back at whatever frame rate? It seems to me that
MR> it wouldn't make a difference since the compression
MR> technique allows the CD-ROM (single spin) to playback frames
MR> at a reasonable speed using a data transfer rate of 150k
MR> bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still run
MR> frame rates at the same speed? What is the difference
What happens when you want to add sound? CD quality sound also uses 150
KB/sec, making it difficult to fit both video and audio in 150 KB/sec
bandwidth. Even with audio compression and/or less than CD quality, you still
need more than bandwidth, as the video uses the entire 150 KB/sec. The
alternative would be to cut video *and* audio quality, but that is less than
desirable.
Jeff
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4287
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/28/93 12:32p
Subj: MiniDisc News Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM>> Hope this gives you enough info on the MiniDisc state of things,
TG> Simon, so the new Nini Disc will hold less information than the
TG> current 5 1/4 CD? What is the advantage of this? Easier to
TG> carry in a pocket?
The question is why do they promote a new format when an existing one
already has essentially all the same capabilities? The 3.5" MO units already
have rewritable and read only (ala CD) formats, and I have heard mention of the
mixed media discs.
The main advantage seems to be that Sony will have total control of the
format, instead of having to share control (and royalties) with others. Sony
collects a royalty on *every* 3.5" floppy disk and drive made, they're just
trying to establish another gold mine...
Jeff
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From: ALEX STUART Number: 4288
To: BILL DENNISON Date: 09/29/93 7:27p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *********
BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
-> What does bare mean?
BD> 'BARE' means you get the drive itself, but no mounting
BD> case, rails, drivers, cables, software, etc...
I suspect in the case of the Pioneer DMR series (which are external drives
not in need of rails, etc.) that 'bare' means without a SCSII adaptor or
cable.
-- Alex.
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From: MIKE BLOODWORTH Number: 4289
To: MARTIN CROCKETT Date: 09/27/93 10:38p
Subj: CDROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Martin, have you found glitches with the new CDROM drivers & QEMM ?
I'm having trouble with the newer CDROM by Mitisu' which is somewhat faster
than the earlier ones. It's OK with MSDOS6 and the HARDWARE drivers but can
lock up the PC on odd occasions when the Software drivers are used (MSCDEX).
Also with DRDOS the MSCDEX wont work if loaded high and it a sizable file
..seems to loadhi OK with MSDOS6 & the same QEMM config.
Please forward a reply on the NETMAIL echo as I don't have the room on my
hard disk to turn this one on for my point. (3:8530/7)
Cheer's Mike!
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4290
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: Photo-CD in Aust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I work in a lab which is offering photo-cd services
F16 1 Hour Photo,
688 Glenferrie Rd
Hawthorn Vic, 3122
(03) 818-2600
and the service is available via selected Kodak Express labs at varying prices
depending on what type of transfer service you need:
Develop, print and transfer 12exp $39.95 disc incl 7 days
(E6 process & transfer) 24exp $49.95
36exp $67.95 (New price)
Standard transfer min 20 exp $2.25 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Selective transfer min 20 exp $3.00 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Special transfer min 20 exp $5.00 per frame $12 for disc 10 days
Shoebox transfer min 65 exp $1.50 per frame disc inlc 15 days
(Introductory offer) max 100 exp
Duplicate Photo-CD min 20 exp $1.50 per image $12 for disc 7 days
-- A photo-cd will hold a maximum of approx 100 images.
-- Service times quoted are lab to lab in calender days.
-- Service times to NT and remote areas of Aust are 14 calender days for all
services.
-- Standard transfer is every exposure transfered. All exposures must be of
the same type (ie. all negs or all slides)
-- Selective transfer is selected exposures transfered, not in any
guaranteed order. All exposures must be of the same type.
-- Special transfer is selected slides or negs in a specified order.
-- Negs or slides in strips less than 3 will be mounted @ 75cents each.
-- Thermal prints up to 8"x10" are also available.
-- Photo-CD is only available on 35mm negs or slides. (at this stage)
In order to do anything other than just view these images, you will need a
fairly powerful machine, Kodak recommend a min of 386SX25, 8Mb RAM, 40Mb free
HD space (100Mb prefered), 24bit graphics card and monitor. The files
themselves are 18Mb in size at full (16Base) resolution and are compressed with
JPEG formulae to around 4.5Mb to 6Mb in size. Each image is stored a 5
different resolutions:
128x192 (Base/16) 'thumbnail'
256x384 (Base/4) Displaying multiple images on the screen 512x768
(Base) TV quality
1024x1536 (4Base) HDTV quality
2048x3072 (16Base) for printing and high quality image manipulation.
This is for the general information for anyone interested. Currently Kodak
lists the following CD-ROM drives as Photo-CD compatable (for PC systems):
- Single Session - Multi Session
Chinnon CDX435 Mitsumi CRMC LU005s(int)
Texel DM3024(int) Gen STAR 5000i(int)
Texel DM5024(ext) Sony CDU31a(int)
Toshiba TXM3301B(int) Sony CDU561
Toshiba TXM3301E1(ext) Toshiba TXM3301BSP(int)
NEC CDR-73(int) Toshiba TXM3301E1P(ext)
NEC CDR-83(ext) Toshiba TXM3401 E1P1000(int/ext)
NEC CDR-36M(ext) Pioneer DRM 604X/600(ext)
NEC CDR-37(int) Procom PiCDS(int)
NEC CDR-74(ext) Procom PxCDS(ext)
NEC CDR-84(int) Panasonic CR562
NEC CDR-25 NEC CDR-38
Sony CDU535(int) NEC CDR-74-1
Sony CDU6205(ext) NEC CDR-84-1
Sony CDU541(int) Texel DM-302X(int)
Sony CDU6211 Texel DM-502(ext)
Sony CDU7211 Texel T-3401
IBM CDROM Model 2 Texel DM-3024
Laser Magnetic CM205 Texel DM-5024
Panasonic CR-531 PLI CDROM MS
Chinnon CDX-535
Smart & Friendly PCD-700
Smart & Friendly PCD-2200
Sony CDU7305
Pioneer DRM-604X
The recommended minimum configuration to access "BASE x 16" images (the highest
resn. images stored in the .pcd file) is:
- 486 processor
- 20Mb RAM
- 25Mb free HD space
- DOS 3.3 or later
- Windows 3.0 or later
- 16.8 Million colour card (24 Bit)(Optional)
- S-VGA or higher monitor (Optional)
Its just as frightening if you're a Mac user. To access "BASE x 16" images,
the minimum recommended configuration is:
- Mac IIci processor
- 32Mb RAM
- 30Mb free HD space
- System 6.0.5 or later
The CD-ROM drives which Kodak list as being Photo-CD compatable for the Mac's
are:
- Single Session - Multi Session
Apple SC Plus (ext) Apple CD300 (int/ext)
Apple CD150 (ext) Toshiba 3301BSM30Z0 (int)
NEC CDR-73 (ext) Toshiba 3301E1m30Z0 (ext)
NEC CDR-83 (int) PLI CD-ROM MS
NEC CDR-37 (ext) NEC CDR-74-1
NEC CDR-74 (ext) NEC CDR-84-1
NEC CDR-84 (int) Toshiba XM-3301 BK Drive
Sony CDU-541 (int) Pioneer DRM-604X Minichanger
Sony CDU-6211 (ext) Sony CDU-561
Sony CDU-7211 (ext) Phillips CDD-461 Audio
Smart & Friendly PCD2200-MAC
This is by no means a complete listing, but if you know of any drive which is
single or multi session compatable and I havent listed it, please mail me....
In my opinion, the introductory offer is the way to go if you can get that many
images together. Also, if you transfer 100 images in one hit, then the disc
will only have a single session on it and will therefore be readable by all
those XA single session drives and some non-XA drives.
If you have any further questions regarding Photo-CD,
ProPhoto-CD, Photo-CD players or other related topics, please mail me....
Andrew Larmour
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4291
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: Photo-CD in Aust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4292
To: DON PUGH Date: 09/26/93 9:36a
Subj: Aussi CD-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Don Pugh to All Australian Cdroms <=-
DP> We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
DP> Mix as you like. Most disks in stock.
DP> WALNUT CREEK SERIES (Available Now)
DP> Gifs Galore $25.00
DP> Simtel latest $25.00
DP> Windows April, 1993 $22.00
DP> HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
DP> Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
DP> Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
DP> C Programmers Users Group $40.00
Interesting, Are these prices your 5 up prices?
If so, what price for 1 offs?
TM.
... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4293
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/29/93 7:35p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alan!
On 09-26-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> RE> The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia
AW> RE> sound to have come off the CD-ROM, into memory and then
AW> RE> been passed to the sound card via the Windows MM drivers....
AW>
AW> What you expected is what is happening <sheepish grin>
AW>
AW> AW>> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors
AW> AW>> on the CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This
AW> AW>> cable appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio
AW> AW>> CD's ;-), and if I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running,
AW> AW>> the sound is abruptly cut off. This was my basic test to prove
AW> AW>> that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes as had been
AW> AW>> suggested.
AW>
AW> RE> Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red
AW> RE> & white connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at
AW> RE> the back of the CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an
AW> RE> audio CD! I'm starting to want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some
AW> RE> testing! <g>
AW>
AW> I'm guilty of giving out misinformation. I've tested it again, and
AW> disconnecting the red and white connectors whilst MM sound is playing
AW> has no effect. The only excuse I can possibly offer is that during my
AW> previous experimentation, I may have inadvertently disconnected the SB
AW> line-out to stereo cable instead. Sorry.
No worries! So we're back to the story that an SB 2.0 will play multimedia
sound, but cannot, due to the lack of an internal mixer, allow a user to
hear audio CDs, even if the headphone jack of the CD-ROM player is
connected to line-in on the SB 2.0.....
Nice to have that one sorted out!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4294
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/29/93 7:43p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Terry!
On 09-24-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
TM>
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
TM> Panasonic 562
TM> Internal
TM> Double speed
TM> Kodak Multi Session
TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
TM> Access time=320 ms
TM> 680-690 capacity
TM>
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series, their manual for the drive
calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are exactly the same as
those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being lazy! As to requiring
an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16 ASP.... that's bullsh*t...
the CR562B will attach directly to the SB Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES*
require is a $A50.00 "controller" if you *DON'T* have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
Ask the dealer again whether it is a CR562B.....
TM> I have one of the SB V2 mono cards in my system.
Well, you'll hear multimedia sounds via the SB 2.0, but see my post to
Alan Whitemore re SB 2.0 and audio CDs!
Cheers!
o
/U\
TM> TM. :)
TM>
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TM>
TM>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4295
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/29/93 7:49p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
AS> RE> Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so
AS> RE> of the speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is
AS> RE> the fastest sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
AS>
AS> The newer Pioneer 6 changer has a quad speed transfer rate. 600 kb/s
Note I typed "I've seen to date".... No ones yet lent me a DRM-604X to
try. Its also a far cry from the cost of the CR562B!
AS> The Toshiba drive has a seek time of 200 ms.
Granted.... Nor have I seen a Toshiba CD-ROM drive....
AS> The panasonic drive has 300kb/s and 320-350 ms access.
True!
AS> Would you agree that both are faster than Panasonic drive?
I'll agree that these drives spec out better than the CR562B... What are
they like in the real world?
AS> There is however a faster Panasonic drive, soon to be released, it is
AS> a caddy job giving it a better seek time (280ms) and SCSI2.
AS> Still same transfer rate though.
Poe Lim suggested that the CR533 (the caddy drive) will have 330Kbps tfr
rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's around
*TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
AS> Also CL are releasing a SB16 soon with a SCSI port built in.
I'll keep an eye out for it....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 4296
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/29/93 6:35a
Subj: cd-rom users group Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI Tim! Thanks for your mail. I'll email you once I've got some more
groundwork in place for the club - there's been a lot of local interest, so it
looks like we'll probably be getting one underway!
*
All the best,
DAvid POmeroy.
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From: PETER LYNCH Number: 4297
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 11:24p
Subj: cd rom tandy driver Refer: NONE
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A friend of mine needs a driver for an externial tandy cd rom drive.
If you can help call peter on 5695459
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 4298
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/29/93 8:00p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
-> titles in stock.
Hi Neil.
I am a CD-ROM distribtuor in New Zealand.
Can you send me a catalogue at 3:771/350 or post (preferable) to
PC Junction (NZ)
P.O Box 5197
Wellington
New Zealand
Cheers
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 4299
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/29/93 9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of
-> duplicates between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to
-> as "CD-ROM DUPLIATE ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of
-> this - do you know any BBS (preferable v32bis) which has it online,
-> and the file name? Better still, do you know if it is on any
-> shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, Pier 1&2, So Much
-> Shareware 2&3, Software Vault II&Gold, Monster Disc II, Shareware
-> Studio II)
Russell.
The program you are after is under the filename CDDA10.ZIP on the
Software Vault Gold CD-ROM under Directory #35 (BBS Programs and Utils).
Hope this is what you're after.
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From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 4300
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/28/93 8:40a
Subj: cd-rom club Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep 16, 1993>, David Pomeroy wrote to All:
DP> Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or
DP> possibly Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to
DP> set one up, as it is badly needed for us down under users.
There is already one going in Australia.
Details from
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Phone (06) 2915258, Fax (06)2914591
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From: POE LIM Number: 4301
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:08a
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasonic CR-562B vs Toshiba 3401) Refer: NONE
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There has been some talk of the AT bus interface CD-ROM drives having faster
transfer rates than the SCSI bus drives, whereas I believe that to not be tha
case. This comparison was done to test my hypothesis.
Constants:
Tested on an i486DX2-66, running a Seagate ST11200 Fast SCSI-2 HD in
synchronour mode, 700Mb partition formatted HPFS running under OS/2 2.1,
CMD.EXE boot (no WPS). Drivers used were the drivers as shipped with OS/2 2.1
for the SCSI unit, and the SoundBlaster drivers (SBCD2.ADD date 8 May 1993).
Files seleted were from the 001A directory of the Night Owl 9 CD ROM, totalling
35,048Kb, to keep the area of file on the CD-ROM constant. Transfer was
manually timed, and copy was done with a batch file, 2 test passes on each
drive, alternating the drives, and an initial run carried out to fill any cache
that may exist as well as to give an idea of time taken. The files were deleted
from the HD after each transfer. The above was done to keep conditions as
constant as possible (and OS/2 was not in multi-tasking mode).
Panasonic CR-562B Toshiba 3401
Pass 1 2 min 39 sec 2 min 26 sec
Pass 2 2 min 39 sec 2 min 25 sec
The time was rounded to the nearest second, and there will be some overhead for
the command processor as well as the HD.
It would appear that the Toshiba is about 9.3% faster than the Panasonic; when
the various overheads involved is taken into account (a possible cause of a
transfer rate of approx 240Kb/sec for the Toshiba, a lot less then the rate
330Kb/sec), it is close to the expected 10% faster spec rate of the Toshiba
over the Panasonic.
In conclusion, there are probably not much difference between the two interface
for the *same rated transfer rate*, but there exist faster SCSI units (and more
expensive too) than the AT bus.
Side not; the Panasonic initially had problems with the tray due to the motor
and laser transport coming loose in transit, and obstruting the tray (noted
also was the abundance of flexible plastic, and the poorer enclosure which may
not be as dust proof).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4302
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/28/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive.. Refer: NONE
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G'day Terry, In a message on <Sep 24>, you said :
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs
TM> fit the Cr-562-b? The Drive requires an $50
TM> controller card to work with the SB-Pro, or it will
I would imagine that it requires the controller card to work WITHOUT the Sbpro.
The Sbpro has its own on board interface to the CDrom so you will not need
another controller.
Laurie
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 4303
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:14p
Subj: BLOKIT INOVATIONS? Refer: NONE
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Has ANYONE ever heard of a shareware outfit called "BLOKIT INOVATIONS"?
ADDRESS? PHONE NUMBERS? BBS NUMBERS?
tHANX!
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From: DAVID SILVER Number: 4304
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 10:14p
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
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I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the near future. What will I
need as far as system hardware to get the most out of a CD-ROM?
I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom plug into an
expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty space in front of
my computer for one)
Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go overboard on price,
however.
Thanks,
David
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4305
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 6:22p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Duplicate Anal Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
RH>I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table
MS> betwe
RH>many popular CD-ROMs.
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.
RH>Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold o
MS> i
MS> That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @
MS> 509-457-0206. Good little utility!
Hey Mike, could you give us a filename so we could freq it?
... Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it.
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4306
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/30/93 12:33p
Subj: windows or dos Refer: NONE
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CS>Is it better to run a game, for example King's Quest VI, in dos or
>windows, if you are wanting the best sound and graphics?
In this game the windows version is clearly the winner. Graphics are
much better at 256 colors and the multimedia extensions give excellent
sound.
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4307
To: KEN GRZEGOREK Date: 09/30/93 12:35p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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KG>NH>Brian-
>NH>I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably
>NH>get a CD-ROM with t
>NH>deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little info on 7
>NH>Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-
>NH>bit sound-card! Pleas
KG>Excuse me for jumping in, but.....I have a few things to say about The
>Seventh Guest. The game is great if you like puzzles. The problem is
>that it you have to reconfigure your system and it still might not work
>right. I bought a 16 bit Double spin CD-rom with a 16 bit sound card.
>Installed it on my sons 486dx2-66 and it wouldn't run. Reconfigured the
>system, and it ran half way through. I then called Virgin Software and
>told then of this problem. They basically said "Sorry about your
>luck.". There were two other people at work that purchased the the game
>and had the same problems. Do as you wish, but I wouldn't spend the
>money for the game. It just happened to come with a sofware bundle when
>I purchased the CD.
Would you be willing to trade or sell it?
Give Mike a call at 504-522-1763 or 504-524-4535
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From: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Number: 4308
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 09/29/93 1:33a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
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╒═[ From: RANDY WHITE ]══════════════════[ To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ ]═╕
│ RW>I'm looking for this new drive, where did you get such a │
│ great deal, any info RW>on the drive's performance would also │
│ help. I have the SbPro2 and the old cd RW>drive it came with.. │
│ Thanks │
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Well I know a gentleman at Insight, so I got a reduced price, but It
should only run you $20-$40 more.
Here are the specs: 320ms access time, 300kb/s transfer rate.
The number for INSIGHT is in any computer magazine, I'm sorry I
don't have the number here, but if you can't find it anywhere, send
me a message and I'll find the number for you.
-\\ILL-
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4309
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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>> Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
>> Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy
>> to
>> assist you further.
>> Boris,
>> does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card?
>> I have 3 alder Hitachi's that are finially giving up the ghost
>> ands will be looking to replace them with stackable internals.
Kurt, you can dasiy chain up to 4 off the same controller.
For the price and what these unit's offer, thier hard to beat.
In fact, thier selling so well, we've been placed on allocation.
If you need further assitance with the above drive or anyother drive
for that matter, please feel free to give us a call and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4310
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: Do you have & how much Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking to buy a copy of "The Constitutional Papers"
>> Publisher Johnson & Company, Electronic Publishers and
>> Consultants
Price - $30.00
>> I am interested in a review and price for "Video Hound
>> Multimedia"
Are you sure about this title ??
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4311
To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: Drives that read 697 megs Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking for a SCSI CD-ROM drive that will read ALL of the
>> files on Storm #1. It has 697 megs on it. My Chinon 435
>> drives will not read all of the disk.
>> If you have a drive and have tested it with Storm I, please
>> tell me. (Has anyone tried it with a Texel DM 3024 or 3028?)
>> P.S. I'm also looking for the names of some good, very new
>> Adult CDs as an alternative to spending $300 - $400 on a new
>> drive.
We can help you with all of the above Brian. Interested, give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4312
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: looking for the Res/busin Refer: NONE
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>> Looking for the Prophone Residential/Business CD rom if you
>> have it (either 3 or 7 then let me know)....
Lee, we have the Business version for $25. ! Interested, give us
a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
We also carry the Phone Disk USA Residential/Business.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4313
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $399.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BILL JONES Number: 4314
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/29/93 6:26p
Subj: Re: CD'S Refer: NONE
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Glad they got to you ok Pat, don't have any more right now but I
might a a couple of weeks.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 4315
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/29/93 6:48p
Subj: RE: CATALOGUE Refer: NONE
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-> Hello Vince. I called your company a few weeks back (voice) to
-> request a catalogue. It has not arrived, probably due to our
-> wonderful mail service...could you please try again. My address in
-> below. Thank you.
Hi Bob!
You got that right - we did a bulk mailing and had 40 catalogs
returned for "insufficient postage". The only problem was that we paid
for them, and the post office "bulk machine" was supposed to apply the
markings that indicated that. There was no way of proving that those
letters were part of the bulk mailing, so we would have had to pay for
them again. We have a new catalog coming out within 3 days, so we
decided to hold those 40 (of which you were one) until it was ready.
We're really hoping this new catalog is worth the wait.
Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Vince
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4316
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:02p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
Monday September 20 1993, NEIL BERGMAN writes to ALL:
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
NB> LEAVE E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> POSTAL ADDRESS!!!!
Yo! Here please.. 5:7102/114.. Thanks..
CU
Stean
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4317
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/24/93 4:04p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris!
Tuesday September 21 1993, Chris Donnegan writes to All:
CD> Has anyone else heard this?
Nope.. If this is the case I'm KILLING my dealer tomorrow.... [g]
CU
Stean
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4318
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/30/93 1:24a
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
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GRL>The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year,
and
GRL>if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
Yes they are, but I haven't heard what the upgrade price will be yet. If
you wait a month or so however, you can usually buy the new release from
me for less than the upgrade price!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4319
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:24a
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
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| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4320
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:25a
Subj: Just a few more titles... Refer: NONE
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Hacker Chronicles.............26.00 Stellar 7.....................19.50
Hobbes OS/2...................16.00 Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00 VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00 Visions of Saturn.............23.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00 World View....................24.00
Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 Wrath of the Demon............29.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 4321
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/30/93 2:30p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
yeah ok.... whatever, L8tr
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From: OKTAVIAN FLORYSIAK Number: 4322
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 5:57p
Subj: Wanted All Music Cd! Refer: NONE
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Where can i get a good music cd with mods, 669s, s3ms, etc.???
Prefrebly techno type but can be anything! More then one would be
good too!
Thanks In Advance!
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: REIJER GRISNIGT Number: 4323
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 10:44p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adrian!
Answering a msg of <Thursday September 16 1993>, from Adrian Salas to All:
This is my adress for your catalog:
R.A. Grisnigt
Bosweg 5
NL 6721 HM Bennekom
The Netherlands
Reijer
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 4324
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/20/93 12:40p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards To Me Refer: NONE
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Hi,
EH> Actually, the PAS-16 can be had for around $150, and it does both 16-bit
EH> playback and SAMPLING, something that's extra on the GUS. Didn't they
EH> promise that 16-bit sampling daughterboard last Christmas...It's now alm
EH> Christmas '93 and I still don't see it anywhere. You can also get the
EH> Logitech Soundman 16 for $130 at Babbages, the same price of the GUS. I
EH> don't know where you got that $250 price for other cards with 16-bit
EH> capabilities...you must be talking Australian dollars or something. Get
EH> facts straight and stop posting bias messages.
Excuse me, I resent the fact that you accuse me of being bias, as I ahve
probably owned or used more sound cards than you can shake a stick at, I
consider my opinion to be just as valid as the next guy.
Especially when I am recommending a sound card on it's merits and
price/quality ratio.
Sure for 16bit recording a SB16 or PAS16 or Logitech16 or NXpro16 will
be a better bet, at a higher price, but a GUS will still PLAY 16bit
sound with the best of them, you just need the 16bit daughter card
upgrade to have the same level for recording.
As to playing MIDI music, a GUS will compare very favourably to all of
the above cards. Which was the original gist of my message. I'm sorry if
you got the wrong end of the stick but thats the nature of this medium
eh?
The prices I quoted were for playing MIDI music, and were refering to a
SB16ASP+WB or Roland Synth, or PAS16XL.
And please don't go accusing where you have no right.
Later
Adam
London, UK
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 4325
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 09/17/93 6:17p
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Robert Stephens to SIMON COGGINS <=-
SC> > I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with
SC> > SoundBlaster Pro set up and
SC> > working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
SC> > working!!
SC> > extensions driver from!! mscdex
SC> > won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
SC>
SC> In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load
SC> SETVER.EXE if you have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you
SC> can run SETVER.EXE as you boot up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a
SC> program that does the same thing..
RS> In OS/2 you change this in the DOS SETTINGS -> DOS_VERSION you would
RS> put something like this to set the version to DOS 5...
RS> MSCDEX.EXE,5,00,255
No, this won't work. MSCDEX will not function with OS/2. The OS/2 CDROM
device driver takes over all relevant functions. I suspect you need the
OS/2 version of the SoundBlaster driver - available from the manufacturers.
From what you mentioned, you are trying to load the DOS version of the driver
in your OS/2 config.sys. This is the root cause of your difficulties, I
suspect. I think the OS/2 version is called something like SBPCD2.sys.
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4326
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 9:43a
Subj: Pioneer CD magazines Refer: NONE
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Hello Simon!
Saturday September 18 1993, Simon Mackay writes to All:
SM> I hope this helps anyone out with searching for magazines for their
SM> Pioneer CD-ROM changers.
Here they go for 'bout R60 which is about $16US.. What'll that be AUD$?
CU
Stean
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From: JELDERT GRAAFSMA Number: 4327
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/22/93 7:21p
Subj: Re: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Brian Rychlicki to All <=-
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
BR> CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram,
BR> and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck reading disks.
BR> The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it
BR> plugs directly into the SBPRO. We then installed the audio cable into
BR> the SBPro. The Drive number was set to "0" on the 562B. The
BR> installation disk supplied was a COMPRO disk which appeared to be very
BR> quick and simple by selecting the 562B drive with the SBPRO. After
BR> following all of the instructions, we re-booted the system, the
BR> autoexec.bat and config.sys appeared to be ok the information on the
BR> CDROM appeared to be ok allocating it as Drive D, the busy light on
BR> the CDROM went on and the rest of the configuring continued. We then
BR> tried to access the CDROM and this is where the problem occurred, -
BR> NOTHING -, no access, no busy light on the CDROM drive, nothing. This
BR> basically is the problem, it will not access the drive. We even
BR> installed another drive, same type, and the same problem. Tried
BR> changing the connector cable around on the SBPRO, nothing. The Disk
BR> was placed properly on the platter. The SBPRO manual is very vague
BR> with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
BR> be installed.
BR> The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
...
I've got the same CD-ROM drive connected to a SB-Pro, but when I bought it
there where no box and disks supplied, so I downloaded MSCDEX 2.21 and
SBCD.sys 4.10 from a BBS and had exactly the same problem as you have.
I spent weeks messing about with it, changing everything unil I came up
with the smart idea of redownloading the software... and it worked!!! (and
still does). My harddisk seemed to have messed up my software.
BTW. My parameters of the software are:
config.sys:
device=c:\sbcd.sys /d:mscd000 /p:220
Where /d: is the drive's name
and /p: is the SB's adress.
Autoexec.bat:
c:\mscdex /v /d:mscd000 /m:20 /e /l:d
explanation:
/v =show memory usage
/d: =drive name (must be the same as in sbcd.sys)
/m: =number of buffers
/e =use extended memory
/l =drive letter to use
I hope this can help you and if things work, can you tell me if the ampli-
fier of the SB makes strange noises while accessing the CD?
Greetz,
Jeldert Graafsma
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From: GERARD KONNING Number: 4328
To: TON ZWERUS Date: 09/23/93 8:48a
Subj: 66 mhz en frontdoor Refer: NONE
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* Forwarded from area 'MODEM.R28'
Dag Ton, je schreef:
-> Hoi Gerard, ik draai FD en een tornado III modem op/met een 486-66Mhz
-> zonder problemen, dus of het dan aan je computer ligt, denk ik niet.
AHA, een medegebruiker... Ik heb het 5 dagen met een Supra geprobeerd
en dat werkte perfect. Nu blijkt dus de init string niet goed geweest te
zijn (je mag geen &W aan het eind gebruiken). Ik heb mijn Tornado sinds
vandaag weer terug en hoop dus dat het beter gaat...
-> Hoop dat je er aan hebt, Groetjes <<Ton>>.
Tuurlijk, alleen zou het mooi zijn als je me jou init string (FrontDoor)
zou kunnen geven. Verder bedankt voor je reactie.
Groetjes, Gerard
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From: TON ZWERUS Number: 4329
To: GERARD KONNING Date: 09/25/93 9:26a
Subj: 66 mhz en frontdoor Refer: NONE
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GK=> * Forwarded from area 'MODEM.R28'
GK=>Dag Ton, je schreef:
GK=>-> Hoi Gerard, ik draai FD en een tornado III modem op/met een 486-66Mhz
GK=>-> zonder problemen, dus of het dan aan je computer ligt, denk ik niet.
GK=>AHA, een medegebruiker... Ik heb het 5 dagen met een Supra
GK=>geprobeerd
GK=>en dat werkte perfect. Nu blijkt dus de init string niet
GK=>goed geweest te
GK=>zijn (je mag geen &W aan het eind gebruiken). Ik heb mijn
GK=>Tornado sinds
GK=>vandaag weer terug en hoop dus dat het beter gaat...
GK=>-> Hoop dat je er aan hebt, Groetjes <<Ton>>.
GK=>Tuurlijk, alleen zou het mooi zijn als je me jou init string
GK=>(FrontDoor)
GK=>zou kunnen geven. Verder bedankt voor je reactie.
Mijn init string in FD:
ATH0 S0=0 M1 \Q3|
Groetjes <<Ton>>.
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 4330
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 10:19a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep2910:19, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 writes:
GP> I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of
GP> problem or special configuration required or something to run
GP> under MS-DOS 6.0. Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's
GP> the scoop, guys?
Just use the MSCDEX.EXE that comes with DOS 6.O
-=Stephen=-
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4331
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card with
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of the
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4332
To: KEVIN DONALD Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
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KD>Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
KD>Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
I had a Gravis but traded it on a PAS-16.. The Gravis was SLOW in SB mode.. it
ate up processor cycles so bad, on a 386sx/25 w/6 megs of ram, I could NOT pla
Wing Commander unless I turned off SB support.. a problem I've never had with
any other card..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4333
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM Refer: NONE
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|SP> Hi All, |
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy |
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO? |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>Yes I do Know......
DC>No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
DC>board?
Probably to save slots used by the controller cards..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4334
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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|BF> -> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with |
|BF> |
|BF> Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people |
|BF> dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster|
|BF> card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound |
|BF> blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of |
|BF> the cd-rom drive and the interface card. |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>This is not so for the Sound Blaster.....the plain one.....unless
DC>there are some undocumented controls for them.
No in fact there is no way to control volume on the regular SB through
software.. the 2.0 may be an exception to this but I know the 1.0 and 1.5
can't..
l8r,
Scott
P.S.- The SBPro and above do however have software volume control..
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4335
To: ED BAILEY Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI LU005S DRIVE Refer: NONE
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EB> Does anyone know of a Driver for use with the Mitsumi, for use under
EB> OS2 Ver 2.1.
EB> There was a Sysop who claimed to have one and I did a File Request for
EB> it. It came from Germany and was for OS 2 Ver 2.0 and clearly said it
EB> wouldn't work with Ver 2.1, also it was a dated program, apparntly not
EB> working after a given date, which had already passed.
EB> I would appreciate the address of the commerical program out there and
EB> if possible a free/shareware release of such a driver availability.
EB> When possible I prefer to support the shareware authors.
EB> Thanks for any assistance.
For one thing, the driver you FREQed was the beta to the release of the German
driver.. the release version works fine with OS/2 2.1 and is not limited by
date.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4336
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
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HB>With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
HB>performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
In a word, NO.. the SB cd-rom interface is totally different than the Mitsumi.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4337
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
GP>Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
GP>To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
GP>locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
GP>time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
GP>signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
GP>works great.
Are you sure he means the 4 wire audio cable? It sounds to me like he wants to
run a Y cable from the RCA ports on the CD-Rom card to the Line In port on the
SB.. To my knowledge, none of the regular SB's have a CD-In.. that was added o
the SBPro and higher..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4338
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering
BF>Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next generation"
BF>stuff gets out of the lab....
Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have a layer
plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to resist scratching
and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the little nicks and scratch
normally won't affect it..
(If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4339
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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GM> Eric:
GM> The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
GM> older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description
GM> of the Tandy and the
GM> LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2
GM> dravers are aviable but
GM> are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a
GM> source,keep reading the
GM> echo somebody will have a source. Gil
EC>Well, frankly I don't really care if I have to pay mnoney .... getting two
EC>SCSI CDRoms is a lot more money! In reference to the card, you recommend th
EC>"LU002S" driver, not the "xxx5S" version? Well, thank you very much for tha
EC>piece of information - it will help!
I have the German os/2 drivers and they work fine on both the LU-002S and
LU-005S.. I've also heard they perform well on the new LU-005U..
l8r,
Scott
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From: PETE BOUDREAU Number: 4340
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 6:13a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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If you sell CD-ROMS please send a catalog to the following address:
Pete Boudreau
6841 Laronda Ln
Las Vegas, Nv 89115
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4341
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/28/93 11:20p
Subj: new cd's Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris,
Please, as soon as you get CDROMs with many OS/2 2.1 programs
and RA 2.00 programs, send me a message, O.K. ?
Soon I'll send you a Crashmail with more CD's requests, O.K. ?(
I'm just waiting for the 5 I requested before.)
OH, I'd like to know : When did you send the CD's ? I'd like to
know how long it's gonna take to arrive here ...
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in USA ! From Brasilia, capital of Brazil
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From: TIM GOULD Number: 4342
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 09/27/93 12:53p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send to:
Tim Gould
28 Erang St,
Carss Park
NSW, 2221
AUSTRALIA
Cheers,
4-mat.
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From: TIM GOULD Number: 4343
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 1:03p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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Neil,
I would appreciate a catalogue, if you could manage one!
Tim Gould
28 Erang St,
Carss Park
NSW 2221
AUSTRALIA
Cheers,
4-mat
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4344
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 10:25p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Rowan Evans...
CZ> RE> Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe
CZ> RE> the classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds
CZ> RE> and bees in mono at 22.05!
CZ>
CZ> The SB 2.0 can play 44.1Khz stereo samples at 44.1Khz mono, I hope you
CZ> know.
Ok, but I think the samples in STW Encyclopaedia under reference are still
only MONO samples (I will take correction on this! <g>)....
CZ> RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I
CZ> RE> think) 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification...
CZ> RE> more than enough to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
CZ>
CZ> The SB 2.0 has 4 watts per channel amplification. Speakers sound bad
CZ> because they're cheap, not because of 4 watts of amperage.
Correction noted... I no longer have an SB 2.0 and was relying on an
uncertain memory.... As to speakers, true... I'm still looking for a
decent set!
CZ> Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best
CZ> sound card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced,
CZ> stone-age FM card with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster).
I bought the SB 16 ASP to control the Panasonic CR562B I had bought
earlier... As far as I was concerned, I wanted something similar to
the PAS 16 that controlled a SONY CDU-31A... That ruled out the
cheaper SB Pro 2, and left the 16 & 16 ASP... As the ASP version was
only a few dollars more, I bought it......
The other factor was the number of slots available to me.... I had to
get CD-ROM control and sound in ONE slot... Thus the SB 16 ASP.....
CZ> Just because a card has "16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on
CZ> it does not mean the music is any better than FM and besides, how
CZ> many people do you know have a stereo microphone to record with?
But it records *NICELY* off an audio CD.....
CZ> ... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable
CZ> voices
Ah Ha! We now see where you're coming from!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4345
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/30/93 10:37p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
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Hi Marcus!
On 09-27-93 Marcus Lee wrote to All...
ML> Just for anyone who might be interested to know,
ML>
ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
What version of T7G install? I borrowed an older (1.04) version and
got 86% on the ATI GUPro ISA... Then bought a 1.2 version and only
got 66% for the same card/same machine...
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4346
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 10:50p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Chris!
On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Ashwin Bihari...
CZ> Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products?
CZ> The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent
CZ> price. ASP is just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression
CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've bought/are
buying SB 16 cards....
Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
SCSI card....
CZ> The "GUS" has:
CZ>
CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster....
CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the SB!
CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
??
CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
Same.....
CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
CZ> 7) Native GUS support
Who wants it??
CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Have a nice day!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4347
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-26-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the
AW> AW>> STW MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and
AW> AW>> just wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM
AW> AW>> applications.
AW>
AW> RE> Which one? I'll play it and see....
AW>
AW> Under 'SOUND' then 'MUSICAL SELECTIONS', most of pieces show the
AW> distortion I mentioned. "Handel, George Frideric - Water Music,
AW> Hornpipe" is one of the more distorted examples on my setup.
Ok, with trusty Pioneer SE-A4 headphones on head, I played several
of the "Musical Selections" including the Water Music piece.....
Apart from a severe "hissing" in the background (sounds like they
recorded this piece by sticking a microphone in front of a speaker
rather than direct from disc!), using x8 gain and the loudest volume
my ears could stand, the only distortion noted was at the loudest
parts of the various pieces....
So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test, I'd
have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM.... But then
again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded....
How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip?? (Just a
long one selected at random!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: MATTHEW SALMOND Number: 4348
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 11:13p
Subj: Cd-Rom catalogues Refer: NONE
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Could any dealers (Nz and overseas) send me a price list for their shareware
and a/v cd-rom disks please as I'm after a number of them. Being placed on
a mailing list would also be appreciated. If overseas dealer please
give estimation of p & h costs.
Matt Salmond
516 New North Road
Kingsland
Auckland
New Zealand
Thanks
... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at All" ... Zzzzzap!
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4349
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 10:22p
Subj: DR. CD-ROM Series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you're thinking about buying the Dr. CD-ROM series to use on a BBS, it's
probably better to give these ones a miss.
Dr. Music and Dr. Games contain FILES.BBS which don't have dates or file sizes.
Not much good if the BBS package you use relies on an indicator somewhere in
the file listing to recoginse files.
Dr. Shareware's File listings are all in capitals.
On the Dr. Music CD, all the sound files are compressed and uncompressed, which
is needles duplication. And, again on Dr. Windows all the .WAV files appear
compressed and uncompressed. Dr. Games contains virtually no games, and again
all uncompressed.
NOTE: This is all from the view of a Sysop - for users intending them for home
use only, they may be just what you're after. But, if you're a Sysop, you'd be
well advised to spend your money elsewhere (even Games 1993, Shareware 1993,
etc, series is better, and they *were* the worst I'd seen till now!)
Ciao!
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 4350
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 9:28p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan Evans replied to Tim Wenas:
> On 09-20-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW>> RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
TW>>
TW>> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only
TW>> has a Sound Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and
TW>> Premium have Sound Blaster 16s.
>
> There are Discovery CD8 and Discovery CD16 kits.... CD16
> specifies the SB 16.....
>
TW>> So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow...
TW>> and I was gonna buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Rowan, when I spoke to CP about the range of MM kits they did not mention a
Discovery CD16. They also said they do not sell direct to the public.
As the Discovery kit has 4 CD's compared to the Performance kits 5 it would
seem unlikely that two very similar kits would have a $200 price difference.
They also told me the RRP for the (SBPro 2 based) Discovery kit was $799.
BTW Rowan, thanks again for all your help on choosing my MM kit. I am very
pleased with the SB16 Discovery kit which, for anyone else reading this, can be
found for much less than the RRP mentioned above if one shops around.
Regards, Steve.
(Fidonet 3:711/440 - Internet steve@asstdc.oz.au)
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 4351
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 9:45p
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Rowan Evans wrote to Boris Osadciw
>
> Yeah, well don't freak if you read a CR563 manual from
> C/L.... their spex on access times are stuffed up but good!
> They list the double speed access at 450ms and the single
> speed access at 350ms.... Its actually the other way around!
Thats a relief - I hope you're right. Here I was expecting a 320ms drive and
the manual says 350ms and 450ms at double speed. I was horrified.
So is this CR563 really identical to the CR562B which claims to be a 320ms
drive? Is it just inaccurate documentation?
Regards, Steve.
(Fidonet 3:711/440 - Internet steve@asstdc.oz.au)
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 4352
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 09/30/93 9:13a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM> Great! You have told me just what I wanted to
DM> hear. I guess you are using 604's??? The cost $3500
DM> over here unfortunately *8-( so just one for now.
DM> As for the server, I was going to do that but up
DM> until you confirmed it, it was just an idea. Thanks
DM> very much for your help. What networking software
DM> are you using?
What do you mean over here? I live in Sydney too! :) Yes it makes you
chringe when you see how much the DRM's sell for in the states. When you have
that working, you can them turn your attention towards a
100 disks changer, or purhaps a 240 disks changer! I have details on the NSM
100 cd changer if your interested. I'm using Novell.
Tarquinn Watson
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4353
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 2:29p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Well, with the Wave Blaster being a daughter card, I guess that C/L
RE> can come up with "Son of W/B" having onboard RAM?? As I think I said
No I don't beleive that the SB has the ability to address RAM on a
Daughterboard. You'll have to wait for new cards using the new Yamaha
OPL-4 chip. The OPL-4 can access upto 4 megs of ROM plus 8 megs of RAM
for samples.
RE> in earlier msgs, sound is, to me, a secondary consideration at the
RE> moment....
Granted that if you don't use MIDI files or play games, you don't really
need wavetable, though many Windows encyclopaedias use MIDI now for
national anthems etc (a minor consideration admittedly).
RE> 1. SVGA
RE> 2. Network
What on earth are you using a network for? Are you running a BBS?
RE> 3. IDE/FDD card
RE> 4. I/O card
These can be all on one card. Now who's wasting slots ;-)
RE> 5. SB 16 ASP (& CD-ROM!)..
RE> 6. Tape B/u card
RE> 7. modem
Again, could be using a Multi I/O, if it were an external modem.
RE> 8. bus mouse
I saw you mention earlier that you were using an ATI GU Pro VGA card.
This card has a BUS mouse interface. Why can't you plug a bus mouse into
your ATI GU pro?
Or is this just a hypothetical setup?
So you could easily free up 3 slots, with a Multi i/o card, and plugging
your mouse into the ATI.
RE> Max of four.... But if you have a SCSI controller with 2 x HDD and
RE>tape
RE> backup, then you can only install 4 SCSI CD-ROM drives too!
Yeah but you save all those other slots for scanners, HD controllers etc
etc... Again giving a typical system 3 or more slots free.
Cheers
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From: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Number: 4354
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/27/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: CD forsale Refer: NONE
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CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
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From: JANET GREENLEE Number: 4355
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 6:14a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
> AS>
> AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
> AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like to receive your catalog
Thanks in advance
Janet Greenlee
p.o. box 484
Rochester Il.
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4356
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/30/93 8:38p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Neil, I just bauaght by system, and it's a 486/25mhz with a single
speed CD-ROM with a access time of 390ms. I have not had ANY problems with my
7th Guest. It does run A LITTLE slow, but that's alright it still looks
great! I don't even think a double spin drive would make that big of a dif.
BECAUSE I only have 512k on my video board. NOW if I had (or you) 1 MEG on the
video board, I think the graphics would be processed much better... Think
about your video board... That might have ALOT to do with how the game
runs...?
Let me know-Walter Chisenski
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4357
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 8:45p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What type of RAM do you have on your system? 2meg, 4meg? The game is
supposed to run with a minimum of 2 MEGS on a 386DX processer! You do have a
16 bit SVGA video card with 512K? Make sure you have at least 10 megs of FREE
space on your hard drive! and MSCDEX 2.2 or higher! Play around with it, I'm
SURE you'll get it going!
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4358
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 8:49p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your MSCDEX file should have came with your CD-ROM drive. (I THINK!) That
must be installed with your CD-ROM driver (OR IS PART OF IT!) Are you able to
run other CD-ROM games and stuff? I use Terminate 1.0 and like it alot! I've
switched over from Telix... Let me know what you come up with, if you do get a
MSCDEX make sure it's v2.2 or higher! You need 2.2 (at least) to run some of
the newer stuff (ie: The 7th Guest)
Let me know what happens------- Walter Chisenski -----------------
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4359
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:44a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 4360
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 8:47p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Tanya Brock <=-
KP>TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in th
KP>TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
KP>TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
KP>TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
KP>TB> be interested to hear from you.
KP>Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
MS> And Starvector Software has it for $16.00
well sounds like you win the price war, plus you are just north of me!
But what I really want to know is, is it any good? What exactly is on
it (1993 files or 1983 or somewhere inbetween)? What kind of
duplication of files if any? Most of the game CDs I have seen have
programs that are on the disc 6-7 times with slight variations in name.
Would you possibly have a files list I could FREQ??
Thanks for the reply!
... C D ROM. C D ROM spin.
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4361
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/29/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: Shared SCSI CD-ROM drives.
You mentioned adding more computers to the SCSI chain to access a single SCSI
CD-ROM drive, the example you gave was a single drive connected simultaneously
to an Amiga and an IBM. Isn't there some issue of bus arbitration that arises
when you do this? Aren't most IBM SCSI-cards incapable of this type of SCSI
networking?
I don't have any experience with SCSI myself, I'm just asking because this is
what I have heard from other people.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 4362
To: CLARKE ULMER Date: 09/30/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <09-28-93 12:40> Clarke Ulmer wrote:
CU>> PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
No copyright concerns? We looked into this arena as well, and what we could get
licensed was a 'Skimpy' collection--Congrats on making the idea work, and all
the best in your endeavours ! Its *NEAT !!
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4363
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 11:30p
Subj: NOT IN WINDOWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
RE> CD> interface.
RE> CD>
RE> CD> Ideas?
RE>
RE> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I'
RE> seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
RE> though (bummer....)
I LIKE caddies...<G>
RE>Look around in this echo for ads from some of dealers and see what
RE>deals they offer....
RE>
RE> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these sucke
RE> (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
What, the Adaptecs?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4364
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/28/93 11:59a
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
>blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
The two interfaces are NOT compatable - you can NOT do this hookup without a
HIGH probability of frying your CD-ROM drive AND your sournd card, and such a
hookup WILL NOT WORK.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4365
To: BARRY SHIPLEY Date: 09/28/93 12:04p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
Pioneer 604X has been out for a few months already.
>2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
The DRM-604X IS an upgrade from the DRM-600A.
>3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
Yes, as I recall.
>4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
Only if there is an ASPI driver for the PAS-16 - the *&^#*&$^@* Pioneer driver
REQUIRES an ASPI API to work.
>5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
Yes, but the Pioneer are by FAR the lowest-cost - though the higher-cost ones
tend to hold a LOT more CD-ROMS (50 and up) and some of them have multiple
drives per system.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4366
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/28/93 12:10p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Compare the cost of a NEC double spin drive
>to a 562B and you'll find the Panasonic at half the cost.
Part of that difference IS the SCSI interface on the NEC - though the Panasonic
is also less expensive than the Texel drives as well....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4367
To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 09/29/93 12:01p
Subj: PNX4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Phoenix 4
>What I need is one with [File Name] [Size] [Date] [Description]
Don't have one (yet), but I can recommend WordStar non-document mode and the
"column" mode for manipulating and adding the info for the TBBS "native" CD-ROM
format....
* SLMR 2.1a * And you hold the key to my life.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4368
To: RAY DYER Date: 09/29/93 12:06p
Subj: CD ROM SCRATCHES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused by
>even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
>first use?
Optical polishing methods work on a CD-ROM.
* SLMR 2.1a * Steve Dallas for Attorney General!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4369
To: JOHN KELLEY Date: 09/30/93 2:14p
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 28 Sep 93 21:03:00, I heard John Kelley shout to Kevin Plummer:
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
JK>
JK> How about a price on Night Owls 10?
JK>
How about $ 22.50
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4370
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/30/93 2:15p
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
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SR> Thanx for your answer, but I got an answer and ordered them from Boris
SR> for $198.00 and he does take Visa-MC as well. Stu
SR>
Okay, Thats Fine, But They also Take Visa/Mastercharge, Etc.
...|<evin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4371
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 8:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yup! You told me all I needed to know. Thanks.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4372
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 8:13p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You make some excellent points, Gordon. Even on the GIF CDs there's still
several different "front ends" available, and very few of them with any real
functionality work on more than their "own" CD. Let's hope the industry sees
fit to move towards some sort of interface standard that would let any "front
end" access any CD. For example, *IF* the CD producers would all use a
standard format for the so-called FILES.BBS file, and would put one in each
sud-directory, it wouldn't be too hard for a text-based front-end to access
that CD with some amount of value added. A truly all graphical front end,
universally acceptable to any front end, would be a bit harder I think, but in
principle just as attainable. Let's see what happens!!
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4373
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 4:31p
Subj: day of the Tentacle? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has played the cd version of the day of the
tentaclte? Would they recomend purchasing this game? Is it funny? Hard? Some
one fill me in, looking to buy it next week if I hear it's good. What the mail
order price for it right now?
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From: GORDON LIVINGSTONE Number: 4374
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 5:38p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get
CB> it to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down
CB> there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this
CB> game going, It's my first disk I own!
You have to load ALL drivers except QEMM or whatever memory manager you run in
in Upper Memory. No you don't need DOS 6 DOS 5 will do. But you should have
between 2 and 4 meg of RAM preferably 4 meg once everything is High T7G will
have no problem.
Cheers
Gord
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From: FRANK HICINBOTHEM Number: 4375
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/30/93 3:33p
Subj: Oklahoma Bbs Bust Refer: NONE
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> Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
Probably, but I think I'll keep doing it anyway. Pity the Constitution doesn't
apply in Oklahoma.
Has your lawyer set up a legal defense fund? If so, let us know the address;
I'd like to make a contribution.
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4376
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/30/93 7:29a
Subj: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
say ismail, can i pick that up in person if i wanted to, I'm here in seattle.
Do you also have other disk i can purchase. Is it a store?
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4377
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 7:36a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
say neil sorry to butt in but what is the name of the cd with dancers? and
price?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4378
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/29/93 12:39p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
It can have a propriatary interface, like the Sony Bus stuff or the Mitsumi
stuff of the SB Pro/Panasonic interface or the Hitachi bus stuff or ...
As far as I can tell, the MAJORITY of CD-ROM drives in use today are non-
SCSI....
* SLMR 2.1a * I tried to drown my problems, but they are amphibians....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4379
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/30/93 11:51a
Subj: NEW CD FORMAT?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I've been hearing about a new CD ROM audio format called Mini-Disc or
something
>like that. I realize this is for audio (right now, anyway)
The audio version of this is JUST getting released.
>but what are the advantages of this?
Size. The physical discs are ballpark 3" or so in diameter, and the audio
version uses data compression to achieve it's storage capasity. Sony is working
on a data version, but I don't see it becomming all THAT popular.
>Adapters to play the smaller CD's in our larger readers?
Many current data players (ESPECIALLY the no caddy ones) will handle the
smaller 3 inch or so diameter "standard" CD format already.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4380
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/30/93 11:54a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>uses some other standard interface like IDE
I don't know of ANY IDE interface CD-ROM drives - and due to the limitations of
that interface, I'd have to SEE such a drive to believe it exists (unless
Mountain or Micro Solutions comes out with it)....
* SLMR 2.1a * "Not a morning person!" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4381
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/30/93 1:07p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I could be wrong, and a thousand people will tell me if so (grin) but the
>Mitsumi uses a sony interface
NOT!!!!!
The Mitsumi interface is propriatary to Mitsumi, and only the Mitsumi bundled
controllers and the ATI Stereo FX/CD and Aztec Sound Galaxy CD sound cards have
the correct interface to hook up to a Mitsumi drive.
* SLMR 2.1a * Caffine, Chocolate, Pizza, Fritos: THE 4 Food Groups.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4382
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/30/93 1:08p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying t
>BF>claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the
>BF>have been reasonable in HIS area).....
>What's a reasonable price in YOUR area, Brice?
$5 or so, I think - I don't use caddy drives, so I don't pay much attention to
caddy pricing....
* SLMR 2.1a * Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood it's ground...
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4383
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 1:20p
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boris, does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card?
I'm not Boris, but the docs I've seen indicate up to 4 Panasonics per interface
card.
* SLMR 2.1a * Tribble -> * a bowl of wheat later -> **************
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4384
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 8:47a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
I'd highly suggest you make a boot disk and load only the necessary
drivers for mem managment and sound and cdrom. Boot off the disk and
then go to your T7G program.
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* OFFLINE 1.56 * "Selling water by the river, MA 01380-0131"
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4385
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-29-93 Corey Biccum wrote to All...
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
CB> to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
CB> free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
CB> It's my first disk I own!
Just to follow up
config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Lastdrive=g
files=20
buffers=20
stacks=0,0
autoexec.bat:
LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
mem
This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
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From: GUY OMER Number: 4386
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 10:08p
Subj: Catalog...please Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
Please send catalog to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th CT
Gainesville, Fl 32605-4713
Thanks...guy
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From: GUY OMER Number: 4387
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/29/93 10:21p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Please send catalog to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th CT
Gainesville, Fl 32605-4713
(SF sysop <smile>)...thanks...guy
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 4388
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 09/29/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: new mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GL> I don't know what the price is to try to buy one separately, but I got
>a new Gateway 2000 system with this CDROM installed this week.
>Gateway 2000 would delete the CDROM from the system for $155.
Glen, thanks for the info and review of your experience with the new
Mitsumi. I will be getting a CDRom by year end and I'm looking into what will
be the most bang for the buck. It seems that a lot of people are generally
happy with it. One criteria I may have though is that it run under OS/2 (which
I believe with the new drivers the Mitsumi does). I'm still looking into
various SCSI units.
TTYL, Stephen
* SLMR 2.1a * Spaghetti code means job security
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4389
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 3:55p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, that sounds real good, is that what you have, is it compatible to
SoumdBlast, Adlib, and all that stuff and does it have a Cd-ROm
interface built in, I have a Mitsumi, which is not a SCSI CD-ROM, please
tell me about this stuff, thanx and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4390
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/30/93 4:02p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Julian, all that a cache is good for if a CD-ROM software seeks the
same data over and over again, unlike games, then that data is stored in
memory for the application to access faster, but now tell me what game
do you know that access or seeks the same data over and over and over
again before the cache kicks in, I got PC-KWIK which is supposed to be
the cache out there and it made absolutely no difference on my Mitsumi,
and since your doublespin is already fast why a cache, besides all the
cache will do is just eat memory and sit there and do nothing, well hope
this helps, if you got any questions just write to me, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4391
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/30/93 4:05p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You know Russell I have seen a lot of messages about people having a lot
of problems either installing that game or running that game and the
funny thing is that it installed and works fine on my computer, taken my
computer is not as fast or yours, I have a 386dx/40 mhz, with 8 meg ram,
and a Mitsumi 350 ms access and 150 kb/sec transfer and a ordinary SB
2.0 sound card and I get no problems whatsoever, but the only thing I
can suggest is that maybe you are not giving enought buffer memory for
the drive or MSCDEX.EXE or maybe 4 meg ram is not enough for that game,
have you tried to follow the suggestions in the book about this
problem??? TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4392
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/29/93 4:33p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Rowan, I do have a Mitsumi and after a lot of thinking and convincing I
decided not to buy a soundcard instead I will be upgrading my computer, I can
buy a SoundCard anytime else, well TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4393
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/29/93 4:35p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Henry in ways it does help but well I will figure out what dress I need,
no problem with that, but once I enter the timpod, someone told me that the
coordianates are split between some gum wrapper and hint book, both of which I
have, but how in heavnes name do I use it, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: LAMAR WILKINSON Number: 4394
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/28/93 7:33a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ross Focke to Neil Harfert <=-
RF> Neil,
RF> NO problem man, First question, there are two speeds that you need to
RF> look at, the access time and the transfer time. The access time is
RF> the time that it takes for you system to access the CD. This should be
RF> somewhere inbetween 180 and 140 milisec. Anything higher than 180
RF> will be very noticable. Second is the transfer rate. This is the speed
RF> at which your computer can transfer files or data from the CD to memory
RF> or your harddrive. This speed in a single speed CD should be around
RF> 150kbs and for a two speed around 300kps. The new MPC2 standard that
RF> is coming out is 300 so that is what you should look for. Good luck.
RF>
You should check the size of the buffers if the buffers
are not large enough it does not make any differance what
the transfer rate or speed is if your buffer is not big enough
you need 32k or better
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4395
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 11:38p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Have some new prices on some CD's
2-left Compton's Family Encyclopedia ------ $25
1-left Languages of the World ------- $17 (with book)
1-left Shareware Gold ------ $15
1-left World Atlas --------- $17 (with book) (I got one it is great)
1-left RBBS --------- $14
1-left Shareware Qverload ------ $17
1-left Canadian Shareware ----------$14
1-left Cook Book Heaven --------$14
1-left Reference Library ------$17 (with book) (I got one its great)
1-left Microsoft Bookshelf -------- $17 (with book) ( I got one its great)
1-left Microsoft Small Business ----- $17 (with book) (I got one its great)
One VGA monitor real nice, works great, just upgraded $135.00
(Magnavox)
Talked the owner down on these CD's, but this I think is the best I can do.
Call 512-939-9822 if interrested in anything.
Pat
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From: CARL GRAHAM Number: 4396
To: MICHAEL BROWN Date: 09/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michael...I still have the prophone 93 disc....
This is a 7 disc set but I didn't understand the question you had on the
Business Disc....Let me know if I can help. Thanks for the inquiry.
Carl 407-291-4687
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 4397
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 7:05a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 21 00:33, Gordon Peterson of 1:106/167 wrote:
GP> I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real
GP> hard to kill this conference.
That's grossly unfair! Bob has worked hard for many years to keep this echo
alive and of high quality. His struggle with the x-rated CD issue is an
attempt to keep the echo alive, focused and legal for _all_ its users. Your
failure to understand that doesn't mean that Bob's motives have changed.
We would not have this echo if it were not for Bob!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4398
To: TINA ROCK Date: 10/01/93 8:20a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TR> Tell me more Bob...what kind of CD-ROM drive runs off an IDE?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I read in a recent trade journal that one was being introduced. Don't
recall the manufacturer, but I'm sure the news will be all over the
place soon enough.
TR> Is it as good as a SCSI interface?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, everybody has their opinion about this vis-a-vis HDD. I'm not sure
what the pros/cons are w.r.t. CD-ROMs.
TR> What differences are there?
TR> Who is faster and who costs less?
TR> I'm looking for a multi-speed CD-ROM. I don't need multi-session
TR> Can you recommend anything?
TR> Also I want a motorized caddy.
TR> Internal.
TR> I already have a SCSI chip in my Zeos 486dx2-66 computer
TR> (just had to brag for a moment)
TR> If you can recommend something...please give me a clue.
You'd best ask someone like Boris Osadciw who's really "up" on hardware
issues. I'm not.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4399
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 9:38a
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Seriously, I see a reference later in the echo to a shareware pr
RE> that runs under Windows and allows you to print CD-ROM jewel cas
RE> inserts... It doesn't seem to have migrated here yet... If you c
RE> find a copy I'd be grateful!....
This is a good program, but not a great program. If you can't find it
elsewhere, drom me your address and I'll send you a floppy with it. BTW:
it requires VBRUN200.DLL - no other version will work.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4400
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/01/93 8:25a
Subj: S3 (Slow) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you're happy with your setup, that's great. But it's just that: YOUR
SETUP. What works for you may/may not work equally well for someone
else. With respect to so-called video accelerators, the VLB has FAR more
influence that the video chip/BIOS itself. Again I say, call Steve
Gibson's BBS and look at the benchmark results he posted. My S3 '805 VLB
is at the LOW end of the accelerator market and I don't really think I
could see any MEANINGFUL difference between it and the latest bit
blaster around. Since I paid less than $200 for it, I (in the most "just
trying to help" way) advise folks not to spend $500 for what may turn
out to be nothing more than an ego trip. But, to each his/her own...
<EOT>
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4401
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 8:44a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> I won't argue, I'll just say that T7G notes that for S3 based ca
RE> it'll only use MCGA mode.... That one note alone made me decide
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I won't argue either. T7G's stance on the issue of S3 boards means,
IMHO, that they won't spend the time to write an efficient driver for it
rather than any lack of functioality the board may have. S3's are very
popular because of their price/performance ratio and that's not likely
to change. Glad you're happy with your setup. Cheers!
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From: KEVIN LO Number: 4402
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/28/93 7:46p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES> Yeah, the only reason why I bought it was because of the $15 for it.
ES>I thought for $15 I couldnt even download 6,000 GIFs on a
ES>14.4 on LD. So, it is pretty neat to have.. The bad part,
ES>no descriptions! <arrghh!!>
$15? Where did you obtain the CD from? Might be interested.....
Cya!
* OLX 2.1 TD * Professional Point System -- 1:374/78.5
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From: MTRAFFIC Number: 4403
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:06a
Subj: Traffic Report! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*********************************************************************
* Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: CDROM *
* Messages received by Unregistered (1:3600/7) *
* Wed, Sep 1, 1993 - Thu, Sep 30, 1993 *
*********************************************************************
Posts Name Average Size Address
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
153 Rowan Evans 105 3:711/413
81 Boris Osadciw 124 1:157/46
56 Bob Hall 822 1:147/31
46 Brice Fleckenstein 837 1:231/190
42 Gordon Peterson 1318 2:320/203
36 Mike Shannon 900 1:377/33
34 HENRY PAUL 874 1:138/173
33 Bob Jackson 714 1:106/30.0
30 Leslie Rhorer 1880 1:387/800.4
29 Adrian Salas 880 1:202/920.0
24 Pat Rickerson 656 1:160/9
23 Jim Lambert 893 1:18/10
22 Ismail Arslangiray 699 1:138/120
22 Tony Stott 1123 3:714/906
20 Ashwin Bihari 1224 1:324/127
20 Gary Stimpson 2393 1:348/706.2
19 Doug Carpenter 701 1:104/555
19 Laurie Batt 1016 3:640/532
18 Poe Lim 1027 3:623/630
15 Kevin Sullivan 1261 6:730/16.0
15 Ron Findling 1434 1:353/730
14 Andrew See 1051 3:712/218
14 NEIL BERGMAN 1788 1:102/523
13 Ronald Leon 798 1:3603/170.0
13 Dave Reed 887 1:344/79
13 Roberto Reyes 715 4:971/1
12 Michael Mulcahy 1238 1:109/70.986
12 Alan Whitemore 1878 3:54/54
12 Don Bosman 1117 1:159/950
11 Lee Noga 1017 1:3618/23
11 Ed Yee 889 1:134/17
11 Roy Cochrun 1306 1:261/1116
11 Rodolfo Vaz 820 4:806/18
11 Terry Menzies 796 3:640/382
10 Christian Bourguignon 441 1:163/317
10 Tim Wenas 1410 3:635/550
10 Sean Tudor 883 3:711/920.0
10 Rj Kulman 705 1:278/714.0
(truncated for brevity)
Total = 2351 by 672 authors.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4404
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:00a
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 4405
To: JACK MEEHAN Date: 09/30/93 6:49p
Subj: Govt Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws
of the United States" for # 30.00 from:
Catalog SB-314
U.S. Government Printing Office
Superintendent of Documents
Box 371954
Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 4406
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/25/93 2:14p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 & Sierra Phone. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tim.
>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You must get the "Iceberg Lettuce" from the "Isle of Wonder" behind the
tomatoes, and drop it in the water. Hurry, or it will melt.
>2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
> is)
You must have the "Hole in the Wall" from the "Isle of Wonder" near the
chair, and something to paint in the castle
wall a door and go in.
If you need some urgent help, you can phone:
209-683-4463 (Sierra On-Line in USA)
It's a free BBS where you can obtain all the hints of Sierra games.
Best regards.
Alex.
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From: JOHN JENKINS Number: 4407
To: DAVID CHANDLER Date: 09/23/93 6:22p
Subj: Cd rom manufacturers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, David Chandler said:
DC >Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process
DC >cost? I am a
DC >software author and have a program with data enough to fill
DC >a CD. Any
DC >leads?
DC >--David Chandler
DC >--- DB 1.39/004485
DC > * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA
DC >(1:218/101)
DC >24/999 900 252/118
David - the cost isn't high, although you'll usually be contracted for a
minimum volume. About £3,000 to £4,000 mastering costs - £3.15 per CD and 15p
for a sleeve. Artwork is extra! multi-colour artwork is even more extra! In the
UK, Attica Cybernetics in Oxford is one source, EMI might do it soon, but not
yet - minimum volumes likely to be 1000's rather than 50 off.
Regards, John
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4408
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 8:29a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Neil!
Monday September 13 1993, Ramond De.Vrede writes to Neil Bergman:
RDV> Please Send Me Your CD-ROM catalog...
Here too please :
Stean Snyman
15 Tulip Street
Brackenfell, CT
7560
South Africa
Thanks...
CU
Stean
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From: MIKE BUTSCH Number: 4409
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:08p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives under sFr.500.-- Panasonic and Mitsumi FX 001D Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Butsch Informatik, Oberwilerstrasse 33, 4123 Allschwil, Switzerland
Phone : +41 (0)61/481'04'80 FAX : +41 (0)61/482'22'38
Here are our new Prices for some CD-ROM Drives that are both Doublespin and
Kodak Photo CD Ready.
Panasonic 562B (Interface for Soundblaster PRO/16BIT) sFr.475.--
Mitsumi FX 001D (16BIT Interface Card and Software) sFr.484.--
We have over 140 difrent CD-ROM Titles in stock. We are distributors from
several U.S. Companys. Producers if you search an european distributor here we
are. Send us a dealer demo cd and we will see.
A special hi to all People at : Trade Show (Fay & Cindy & Dave), Walnut Creek
(ALL!), MSD inc. (Roc), CCI (Boris) and all the others
that know us.
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From: STEVE THOMPSON Number: 4410
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:34p
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
I have £250 to spend.
I am looking for it to plug into my Sound Blaster Pro, It must be standard (
Whatever that is ), I also need it to play audio sound.
Any help is greatfully recieved.
(-* Gonzo *-)
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From: STEVE THOMPSON Number: 4411
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 10:22p
Subj: Good CD for a BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for peoples reccomendations for a CD disc with a varity of
software on for a BBS. IE a CD like Black Box 5.
Thanks
(-* Gonzo *-)
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From: DYLAN GARTON Number: 4412
To: LES Date: 09/23/93 4:47a
Subj: CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is all or part of this bulletin board available to buy on CD Rom.
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From: STEVEN LUNN Number: 4413
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 1:38a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS> Thank you
AS> Adrian Salas
AS> * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
AS> -!- WM v3.00/91-0098
AS> ! Origin: Order CD-ROMs On-Line, UNI-ROM BBS 619.279.4774
AS> (1:202/920.0)
I am interested in a FREE catalog.
I am Steve Lunn
12 Clarke Grove
Pinders Heath
Wakefield
West Yorkshire
WF1 4TH
England
I Will expect to hear from you...
... When I grow up I want to be an Amstrad ...
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From: STEVEN LUNN Number: 4414
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:50a
Subj: Syndicate Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Since it has been decided by the powers that be that a version of the ACE
game SYNDICATE will be released on the Amiga CD32 machine, does anybody know
if there are any planns for a PC CD-ROM version with the same extra add-ons?
If any-one out there has any information, I would be grateful.
T.T.F.N
Lone Wolf
... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 4415
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/29/93 12:00a
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>TB>Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES?
>JL>Hi Tanya. How does $18 grab you? <G>
>JL>If you would like a copy of our latest catalog,
>JL>send me your address or give us a call.
>JL> Jim...
>JL>CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS
Thanx for your call yesterday, I'm looking forward to your catalog.
On the above disc, GIGA GAMES, is it commercial or shareware??
And do you take Visa-MC???
Stu
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From: GREG MCCONNELL Number: 4416
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:47p
Subj: Should it stop spinning? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just purchased a cheap external CD-ROM drive with the brand name The
"Cube". I have never had a CD player before, audio or computer.
After fooling with IRQ's and jumpers, I got it working with my computer
such that I could do a "dir H:" and get its directory, and run the game
on the one CD disk I purchased with it, and basically use it as another
drive. BUT I am wondering WHY IT WON'T STOP SPINNING after I once
access it with the computer. E.G. I just do a "dir" and leave it alone,
but the CD keeps spinning until the next time I turn the power off on
the drive. Is this normal behaviour for the CD?? I ask, because in one
circumstance only, it does indeed stop spinning, which is after I just
turn on the computer's power, and the CD drive spins the disk to get
established on the track 25 (presumably like any floppy drive reading
the FAT track). Anyway, I worry I am going to wear out the motor!
Any advice from you obviously experienced CDers would be appreciated.
Regards, Greg
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4417
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 4:30p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Actually, I'll grant that caddies MIGHT be interesting for two or maybe three
>types of utilization.
>ONE: People who plan to let their preschool kids shove caddies in and out.
That's one of the few cases where I can see caddies as being usefull.
>TWO: Use in a car, where you shouldn't take your eyes off the road.
My car CD player has a "lip" around the whole slot - I can insert a disc by
feel with NO problems at all - in fact, it's easier than trying to insert a
disc into a caddy.
>THREE: In a CD-ROM changer, where you MIGHT want to be able to load a
>cartridge containing several discs as a set (as the Pioneer does), or even a
>large set of 50 or more discs (like that German changer does).
I prefer the method Nakamichi came up with - an internal 100 disc magazine,
that you load one-at-a-time via a front panel slot, and random access to all of
the discs. They also set it up so that you can load/unload discs while a disc
is playing....
* SLMR 2.1a * A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4418
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 5:06p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
> this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
> If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
> this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
Why not carry CDROM AND CDROM_SALE?
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulhu Calls -- using MCI
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4419
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/30/93 5:15p
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
>BF>pictures....
>Of course, that's where most of them come from...
Used to be the case, but growing less so....
* SLMR 2.1a * It's 11:00...do you know what your cats are shredding?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4420
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 5:16p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> > "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector
> BF>
> BF> It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't
> BF> use THAT defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
> Well, Adaptec was sticking with the 50 pin connection via centronics
> type plug
Which is the only "real" standard, but is a bit impractical to fit into some
places....
* SLMR 2.1a * Feces Occurs!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4421
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 5:19p
Subj: PANASONIC 562B + SB MONO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> > I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
> BF> > my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
> BF> > set of speakers that will cope!
> BF>
> BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
> BF> KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE
> BF> amp/speaker system....
> This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country to
> buy this type of gear....
Nope - only a "few" thousand $....
8-)
> The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle the
> 4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't
Try a set of Realistic Minimus-7 speakers sometime - or any of the better
"clones" of that speaker (like the Braun or ADS).
The self-amplified Minimus speakers are fairly decent, too - I used to use a
set of the 4" ones at Computer swapmeets....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats have fur coats because they look sillly in raincoats
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4422
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 09/30/93 5:21p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
performance
>with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
No. Also, the model number is the "LU002" or such - I have no idea what that
"crmc" is for, but ALL Mitsumi drives boxes I have seen have that on them....
* SLMR 2.1a * Rear Admiral (n): Navy Proctologist.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4423
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 10/02/93 4:15p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> I am interested!
JH>
JH> Do you have a fax numer for me?
JH>
JH> Jurrie Hobers
(317) 878-5982
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4424
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 9:52p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA PRO-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quoting: Chris Zito (09-26-93 17:03)
To: Rowan Evans
Subj: RE: PANASONIC 562B + SB
CZ> Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best
CZ> sound card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced, stone-age
CZ> FM card with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster). Just because
CZ> a card has "16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on it does not mean
CZ> the music is any better than FM and besides, how many people do you
CZ> know have a stereo microphone to record with?
Oh I don't know? I have a Multimedia Pro 16 sound card and SB 16 ASP
sounds a bit tame if you ask me.
BTW, you know anything about Panasonic 563 CD-ROM drives? What makes
them different than the 562 series?
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4425
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/01/93 11:19a
Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quoting: Scott Davis (09-29-93 16:47)
To: Brice Fleckenstein
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA
SD> Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have
SD> a layer plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to
SD> resist scratching and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the
SD> little nicks and scratch normally won't affect it..
SD> (If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
Well maybe I am all wet, but I thought the whole idea of the CD was
that as long as laser light could bounce through the plastic, it
will read correctly. Light still gets through scratches and even big
scratches.
There was fear at one time that oxidation would erode the metal
coating. Although I never heard of this being a problem. Maybe if
you bury it for awhile, it might happen. Who knows.
BTW, I use to work for Philips for 8 years and spent a good amount
of time in Holland. Although nothing to do with the CD-ROM
technology except we used them on our computers.
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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Number: 4426
To: ARNIE BERGER Date: 10/01/93 5:43p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpr Refer: NONE
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AB>BR>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
AB>R>with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
AB>BR>be installed. The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I
AB>BR>doubt.
AB>BR>Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
AB>Brian, I just installed the Creative labs version of this drive
AB>and my dealer had to replace the motherboard, inorder to get the drive
AB>to work. Fortunately my system wa under warranty so it free. The
AB>technician told me with my old motherboard the drive locked up and would
AB>not work. I don't know it this will help you in your situation.
AB>Arnie
Thanks for your input Arnie. I did manage to get it up and running on my
system with no motherboard changes. The problems were two things: 1) The
software I received with my SBPRO ver 2 which was bought in November 1992 was
not compatable. That is, a dealer gave me the newer release and after
installing it, It resolved the problem. I then encountered another problem -
my old mouse and mouse driver. I used a Genius GM-5 serial mouse which is an
"el cheapo" bought with my system about 4 years ago. Whenever the autoexec.bat
read the c:\gmouse.com command, the driver for the Panasonic CDR562B would not
install. I changed the mouse driver (bought another mouse) and everything works
great now.
A word of wisdom for you all who are thinking of buying this drive and have a
SBPro v 2, try to get up to date software/drivers for the SB and Mouse you are
using first. Good Luck.
===
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4427
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/02/93 1:42a
Subj: Memory Woes Refer: NONE
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Here a couple of suggestions;
Switch to a third party memory manager, such as QEMM 386, as MSDOS
6's HIMEM and EMM386 will locate the start address for the UMBs 4K
above the actual address. Switch to Microsoft's 8.10 mouse driver,
and use the /U switch to load about 3.8K in the UMB, relocating the
rest to the HMA. Run MSCDEX using the /E switch, which will load to
15K to the UMB and relocate the rest to EMS. If your CD Rom driver
allows, make the LASTDRIVE statement in the config.sys the CD Rom
Drive, if that is your last device, LASTDRIVE E rather than
LASTDRIVE Z. Switch off any cache scheme that the CD Rom .SYS driver
allows. Typical savings on my system were... 16K-MS Mouse 8.20 to
3.8K MS Mouse 8.10, MSCDEX 47K to 35K not using the /E switch to 15K
using the /E switch and SONY SLCD.SYS 37K cache scheme on to 23K
cache scheme off, which allowed all other drivers and TSRs to load
high with 615K (630K) of conventional memory free and 26K free in
the UMB area. Try the update on VIRGIN's BBS called T7G_130 which
requires about 480K conventional memory and uses XMS rather than EMS
and fixes a miriad of sound related problems. Also, you could setup
a multi-configuration in MSDOS 6, where you would select a
configuration that would allow you to only load the drivers and
utilities that the CD Rom requires or switch off the EMS page frame,
thus freeing an additional 64K of UMBs allowing you to load more
from conventional memory into the UMBs. Hope some of this helps.
Happy CD'ing.
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From: PAUL NALEY Number: 4428
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/30/93 5:10p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
MS> We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
MS> - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
MS> NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w CD......$35
MS> CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x s/w!.$29
MS> PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
Mike you already have my Pre-Order on file for Night Owl 10, but I just
noticed that another dealer (Groupware) is offering their pre-order
price of $20. Will you match it?
* OLX 2.2 * A fool and his money are my best friends!
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4429
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 10/01/93 10:28p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
PR> 25 Sep 93, John England writes to Pat Rickerson:
JE>> Hi, Pat ! I left you a message yesterday about the CD-ROM drive. I did
JE>> yaWreceive the check and I sent the CD-ROM drive via UPS on Friday.
JE>> You should get it sometime next week. Please let me know if you don't
JE>> ^nget it
It has been a week and still no drive. Whats up, did it get returned to you?
My address is
411 Ninth St. Nas
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418 is this how you sent it as the Ninth should be
spelled out, sure hope I get it soon but can't understand that it has taken
over a week by UPS please check into this as it was a birthday gift for my
12year old! (he checks every day when he comes home from school to see if it is
in, driving me crazy!) 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: LEE BAILEY Number: 4430
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/29/93 11:17p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
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TW> **-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 6 CDs: $720 (however, I don't
TW> know the
TW> specs on the drive except that it's photo-CD ready.)
TW> -Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 5 CDs: $790 <?> -Different
TW> store.
TW> -Soundblaster Performance <SB16> + 5 CDs: $899
TW> -Multispin Stereo Pack: Panasonic multispin, Laserwave 16 +So
TW> Much
TW> Shareware: $750
TW> -Multi-spin pack: Lasermate multi-spin/session, Laserwave Supra
TW> 16, 5
TW> CDs: $799
TW> ** -Soundblaster 16+doublespeed CD-ROM+5 CDs : $845 (I think
TW> it's the
TW> performance pack, if so it's a good price, retails normally
TW> about $999)
TW> -Panasonic multi-spin/session, 16bit sound card (but which
TW> one), 15<!>
Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if you're interested.
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 4431
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 10/02/93 5:54p
Subj: Defense fund Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw a message from another guy asking about this and I had wondered it
myself, do you have one set up?? I would like to contribute myself, I don't
like it when someones rights get trampled on.
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 4432
To: KEVIN LO Date: 09/29/93 6:48p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kevin,
Got it from Free Spirit Software in California...
Phone Number : 1-800-638-5757 (orders only)
1-317-878-5342
1-317-878-4751 (Fax)
$15.00 from the October Issue of Computer Shopper
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
ps.. there are no descriptions.
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 4433
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 09/30/93 9:50p
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM>Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
AM>up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
AM>another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
AM>16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
AM>tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I've
AM>seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
AM>What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
According to the spec.:
Data Transfer Rate
Sustained Rate 150Kbytes/sec
Burst Rate 2.1Mbytes/sec
Access Time
Full Stroke 950ms (Typical)
Average (Random) 490ms (Typical)
Acceptable Discs:
CD-ROM Mode-1 Data Discs
CD-ROM Mode-2 Data Discs
CD-Audio Discs
Audio-Combined CD-ROM Discs
CD-ROM XA Discs
CD-I Discs
Steven
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4434
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/02/93 7:12a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yup! Just saw it in one of the trade rags - Infoworld, I think. It's either
shipping now or will be by the end of the year. Forget who the manufacturer
is.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4435
To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Date: 09/28/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the gam
CH> I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
Already sold. Thanks anyway.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4436
To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Date: 09/28/93 4:24p
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the gam
CH> I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
Already sold. Thanks anyway.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4437
To: JOHN DAGES Date: 09/30/93 2:49p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The
JD> Tentacle, it's an incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
JD> thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
JD> thanks!
Does this mean you're selling it or what? If you're selling it I'm
interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4438
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 3:57p
Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know if Return to Zork will be coming out on cd-rom?
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 4439
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/29/93 12:09a
Subj: Re: HOT NEW PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <24-Sep-93 13:06:00> Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H O T N E W P R I C E 'S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BO> From Consumer's Club International On this date
BO> 09-24-1993, Pioneer Electronics has just lowered their price's to us
BO> on the following Six Disk Changers. Here is your opportunity to
BO> purchase one of the finest cdrom changers on the market.
BO> Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive - PRICE $1169.00
Do i get a refund for the differnt's hehehehe??? Might be ordering another 604X
here shortly or should i wait till the 18 Disk one??
Jesse
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 4440
To: PAM NOVAK Date: 09/28/93 8:01p
Subj: Re: Neurological disorders Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Pam
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org)
On: Tuesday September 28 1993 at 20:01
Hi Pam!
Tuesday August 31 1993, Pam Novak told Gail Hitson:
PN> heartline;1-800-345-hart;11:00a.m.to 8p.m.weekdays except
PN> hollidays Cardiovascular nurse specialists answer questions and send
PN> you imformation about heart diseas and related conditions. As lymes
PN> can effect your heart. American Heart association 1-800-AHA-USA-1 9a.m
PN> to 5p.m. all time Zones. For answers to heart disease questions.and
PN> acess to your local heart chapters. Hope this helps Pam * SPITFIRE
PN> v3.3 --- FreeMail 1.08b
Major Mixup here!! I got 4 messages from this health thing already! Crossed
lines on the net?? (grin)
Cheers!
╔═══╦╗╔╦══╦═╛
╚══╣╩ ╩╚═╝
╚╝ Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 4441
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: Panasonic CR562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: All
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org)
On: Tuesday September 28 1993 at 21:00
Hi All!
OK, I tried, got no reply, I'll try again: Are there any dealers out there who
can ship a <subj> to Zimbabwe, what are their FAX NUMBERS and do they offer any
deals? I HAVE to buy soon, FROM THE USA if possible (not availiable here) and
NOW!!!!! Please someone help, I NEED THOSE FAX NUMBERS!!!!!!!
Thanks to anyone kind enough to help.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4442
To: DAVE WONG Date: 10/02/93 1:51a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> say ismail, can i pick that up in person if i wanted to, I'm here in
> seattle.
> Do you also have other disk i can purchase. Is it a store?
After it's release, please stop by and pick up your copy. We are @ Exit 130 I-5
and cross the street from El Torito Resturant. TTYL
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4443
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/01/93 4:19p
Subj: RE: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sounds good to me .... you got a phone number and ordering information?
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From: ERIC RICHARD Number: 4444
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 10:15a
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
Eric Richard
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4445
To: BRUCE WILSON Date: 10/02/93 2:55p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW> On 09-29-93 Corey Biccum wrote to All...
BW> CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
BW> CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
BW> CB> to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
BW> CB> free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
BW> CB> It's my first disk I own!
BW>Just to follow up
BW>config.sys:
BW>DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
BW>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
BW>DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
BW>DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
BW>DOS=HIGH,UMB
BW>Lastdrive=g
BW>files=20
BW>buffers=20
BW>stacks=0,0
BW>autoexec.bat:
BW>LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
BW>LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
BW>PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
BW>PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
BW>mem
BW>This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
BW>___
BW> * OFFLINE 1.56 * "Selling water by the river, MA 01380-0131"
BW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
BW> * Origin: SpaceMet-North Greenfield, MA (1:321/152)
Here's a autoexec and Config that gives me 622k for DOS/Windows
applications. Its a combination of DOS 6.0 and QEMM 7.1 ....its well
worth the added cost.
C:\STACKER\CHECK /WP
@ECHO OFF
VERIFY=ON
PATH C:\QEMM;C:\DOS;C:\MOUSE;C:\CDROM;C:\UTILITY;C:\PCKWIK;C:\WINDOWS;C:\STACKE
PROMPT $E[1;37;40m$P$E[1;31;40m$G$E[0;0;40m
SET BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 T3
SET MOUSE=C:\MOUSE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 /LO C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.EXE
GOTO %CONFIG%
:NORMAL
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /E /M:30 /L:G
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\APPEND /E
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\PCKSCRN
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\SUPER
WIN
GOTO END
:ONE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\APPEND /E
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\PCKSCRN
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\SUPER
GOTO END
:END
[menu]
menucolor=7,0
menuitem=normal, Windows
menuitem=one, Games from DOS
menudefault=normal,3
[normal]
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=102
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=30
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=4,0
STACKS=9,256
DOS=HIGH
BREAK=ON
SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:2 C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:256 /p
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\CDROM\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /M:30 /I:10 /P:30
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\PROAUDIO\MVSOUND.SYS D:0 Q:7 S:1,220,1,5 M:0
[one]
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=102
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=30
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=4,0
STACKS=9,256
DOS=HIGH
BREAK=ON
SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:2 C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:256 /p
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\PROAUDIO\MVSOUND.SYS D:0 Q:7 S:1,220,1,5 M:0
[common]
Hope this helps you make a decision.
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4446
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/01/93 8:12a
Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Bob Hall:
GP>Regarding your proposed changes to this echo:
GP>I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real hard to kill this
GP>conference.
Do you think your constant carping and criticism of anyone who doesn't
share your views is HELPING this conference? I suggest you stop
criticising the moderator (and everyone else), and talk a walk in the sun.
maybe you'll recapture some perspective on what is really important in
life.
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 4447
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/30/93 9:42a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>How did you set up a staging directory? I have a 6pack and four nodes
LG>and nothing I have tried works too well (large buffers, doors)
Hello, Langston.
The software I use will copy the file across the LAN to a staging directory on
a hard drive. All i have to do is tell it a path. I'm not sure what software
is avaiable for your BBS s/w. MFM/MFMLAN and FILEMAN/COPYIT work well is a
TBBS environment.
Regards
Tarquinn Watson
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From: PETER BOSKOS Number: 4448
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/30/93 8:12p
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
> Peter,
> Two of the Firearm's Reference would be $60 + s/h.
> Please add $13 for
> insured Airmail shipping, or $7.50 for non-insured
Mike.....thanks for response. Will fax you the details.
Cheers Peter
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4449
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 7:35p
Subj: Sb With Nec Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-28-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> The ONLY drive that SBPro interface will handle is a
BF> > BF> Panasonic/Matsushita unit designed specifically for that
BF> > BF> interface....
BF>
BF> > I beg to differ... I have seen SB Pro used with a SONY CDU-31A
BF> > CD-ROM.
BF>
BF> Are you CERTAIN that the Sony was being run by the SB, as opposed to
BF> having just the AUDIO connected to the SB Pro?
I never actuall got to see inside the machine, so it could be that there
was a separate SONY i/f in there.... But it seems to me to be remarkably
*STUPID* to do an MM kit using a more expensive drive that will also
require a paddle card than using the Panasonic Cr52x series drive....
BF> > Also there is a later Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive
BF>
BF> Precisely - a PANASONIC!
You've clipped to get a mis-quote here Brice... From memory I think the
statement went CR52x, etc, etc then the statement about the CR562B, mainly
for the speed statements following...
BF> > was faster than an NEC CDU-55 and an NEC 74-1! (Both SCSI
BF> > devices)....
BF>
BF> Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with a
BF> somewhat larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that
BF> CoreTest will give on a drive or controller with a large buffer.
BF> The 563 appears to be a nice drive, but the SUSTAINED DTR is the
BF> same as the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks
BF> of data many times (256K or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR
BF> to be a lot faster, as you're actually reading the BUFFER rather
BF> than the data on disc after the first read....
The CR562B/CR563 have 64Kb cache.... I believe the NEC has 256Kb....
The data test was done using a large stream of non-repetitive data
(\SOUNDS directory on Creative Sounds) to avoid the situation that
you specified here....
I'm waiting on another CD transfer rate test program and I'll post the
results when obtained!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4450
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 7:36p
Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again Brice!
On 09-28-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are
BF> > BF> nervous....
BF>
BF> > Sorry dude, you're thinking of New Zealand!
BF>
BF> Not according to the original I was quoting....though BOTH countries
BF> might be equally applicable to that quote?
Nope, they have something like 2 or 3 sheep per person there..... <g>
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4451
To: POE LIM Date: 10/01/93 8:02p
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasoni Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Poe!
On 09-30-93 Poe Lim wrote to All...
PL> There has been some talk of the AT bus interface CD-ROM
PL> drives having faster transfer rates than the SCSI bus
PL> drives, whereas I believe that to not be tha case. This
PL> comparison was done to test my hypothesis.
PL>
PL> Constants:
PL> Tested on an i486DX2-66, running a Seagate ST11200 Fast SCSI-2 HD in
PL> synchronour mode, 700Mb partition formatted HPFS running
PL> under OS/2 2.1, CMD.EXE boot (no WPS). Drivers used were
PL> the drivers as shipped with OS/2 2.1 for the SCSI unit, and
PL> the SoundBlaster drivers (SBCD2.ADD date 8 May 1993).
OK, severely different setup to the DOS/Windows setup I used...
HPFS also gives you the advantage over the FAT file system on the
DOS setup....
What does PC Labs Bench 7.0 say about the Disk Harmonic of the Seagate
SCSI drive??
Did you try a DOS transfer rate test (booting off a floppy) or don't you
have a FAT partition??
What SCSI controller?? What bus??
PL> Files seleted were from the 001A directory of the Night Owl 9 CD ROM,
PL> totalling 35,048Kb, to keep the area of file on the CD-ROM
PL> constant. Transfer was manually timed, and copy was done
PL> with a batch file, 2 test passes on each drive, alternating
PL> the drives, and an initial run carried out to fill any
PL> cache that may exist as well as to give an idea of time
PL> taken. The files were deleted from the HD after each
PL> transfer. The above was done to keep conditions as constant
PL> as possible (and OS/2 was not in multi-tasking mode).
Fair enough... Similar to the test procedure I used...
PL>
PL> Panasonic CR-562B Toshiba 3401
PL> Pass 1 2 min 39 sec 2 min 26 sec
PL> Pass 2 2 min 39 sec 2 min 25 sec
PL>
PL> The time was rounded to the nearest second, and there will
PL> be some overhead for the command processor as well as the
PL> HD.
PL>
PL> It would appear that the Toshiba is about 9.3% faster than
PL> the Panasonic; when the various overheads involved is taken
PL> into account (a possible cause of a transfer rate of approx
PL> 240Kb/sec for the Toshiba, a lot less then the rate
PL> 330Kb/sec), it is close to the expected 10% faster spec
PL> rate of the Toshiba over the Panasonic.
This is the type of result I expected out of the NEC 74-1 tests I did...
You also have the situation where it is possible for the SCSI CD-ROM
to transfer DIRECTLY to the SCSI HDD... I'd really like to know if
that's the way things go under OS/2....
Are you able to re-do the tests using an IDE HDD to see if the Toshiba
takes a performance hit in having to change interfaces like the
Panasonic is already doing??
PL> In conclusion, there are probably not much difference
PL> between the two interface for the *same rated transfer
PL> rate*, but there exist faster SCSI units (and more
PL> expensive too) than the AT bus.
I think I'm getting my AHA1540B back next week, with a 300Mb SCSI
HDD.... I'll hook the NEC 55 I have up too and give it a whirl!
PL> Side not; the Panasonic initially had problems with the
PL> tray due to the motor and laser transport coming loose in
PL> transit, and obstruting the tray (noted also was the
PL> abundance of flexible plastic, and the poorer enclosure
PL> which may not be as dust proof).
Seems like someone packed it pooly and someone else handled it roughly!
Interesting results! Definitely gives food for thought if the user will
be doing CD-ROM work under OS/2.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: MATTHEW SALMOND Number: 4452
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/30/93 10:53p
Subj: Cd's for personal use Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT> Most people I know that use CDROM are Sysops. I don't know a single
PT> person who bought one just to play games or whatever. I do know one
PT> person who is going to get one for his personal use but it's part of a
PT> package deal he's getting.
PT> As for why people like them, it's obvious why BBS' use them. On the
PT> personal side, you have things like Encyclopedias, dictionaries, road
PT> atlas', games, etc. Plus CD's are cheaper than disks.
Sorry (not... well maybe just a little bit) for butting in but you say you
don't know many people who buy cd-roms for personal use? Seems a bit
pointless getting a cd-rom just for a bulletin board so other people can
enjoy using it while you watch (unless you are really philanthropic).
As you mentioned it sure beats buying disks especially when you're into
shareware and gifs in a big way.
Butting out now. See ya later
Matt.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4453
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/28/93 1:30p
Subj: Cd-Rom Questions Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
BH>>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
BH>>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
BH>>the land of enchantment.....
Yeah, it certainly is the life. A chance to put down that moderator's
baseball bat for a few hours, enjoying a nice cold XXXX (let's see if
the flame mongers get any wierd connotations out of that one!!!) and
generally enjoying the sun.
Seriously though, could you possibly forward a listing of the products
you carry to our company. I would greatly appreciate it.
Bishop's Computers
P.O. Box 134
Inala, Qld, 4077
Australia
BH>>:-)
BH>>Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
Guilty? Guilty!?? It's not a crime to enjoy oneself for a moment, Bob.
Hopefully you'll enjoy yourself some more when people start obeying the
damn rules. I'm sick of seeing my packets half full of flame,
counterflame, and moderator fire extingishers!!
Regards, Ian
* OLX 2.1 TD * Censor: Someone who knows more than he thinks you should!
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4454
To: ALL AUSTRALIANS Date: 09/30/93 10:46a
Subj: Bishop's Computers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bishop's Computers are Still Active in the Echo. Hopefully some of our
supply problems are now resolved :-)
N.O. 9, SMS3, Clipart Heaven, Encyc. of Clipart, Pixel Perfect $60
World Vision, Libris Britanica, Total Baseball, Comptons Golf $70
Walnut Creek Range $30
CD-ROM Hardware Also Available. Call us and ask for unlisted products.
* OLX 2.1 TD * Bishop's Computers - (07) 372-2838 anytime.........
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4455
To: DAVID SCHENK Date: 09/29/93 7:07p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DD>> how many bit is the matsumi?
RS> 32
DS>Are you shure ?
No, I was joking, either 8 or 16, its probably 8 tho .
-Robert
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 4456
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/30/93 3:25a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Conder to Kevin Martin <=-
SC> Kevin & Chris,
SC>
SC> Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and
SC> a guy named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer
SC> makes CD ROM drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase
SC> change optical drives, but no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of
SC> buying one, but not if they're out of the market. Service problems
SC> down the road are something I don't need. If anyone finds out that
SC> this info is wrong, let me know.
SC> Scott
Panasonic aren't out of business (are aren't likely too be) - you wouldn't
have any service difficulties!
... Does anyone REALLY read these stupid taglines?
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4457
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 10:06a
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
RE> approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's
RE>around
RE> *TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
This is the drive I have, the teXel DM3024, I paid about $AUS 480. This
is only about $80 more than the Panasonic, which I bought in a SB16asp
kit, but I beleive can be had mail order for around $400.
My guess is that the 533 will probably sell for something like $600.
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 4458
To: MODERATOR Date: 10/01/93 3:27a
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Moderator!
Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Star) area
listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next few
months, many of the FidoNet individual networks are switching over to Planet
Connect for the backbone echo feed for $40 a month for a hub system. Our net
is doing that next week..
PC will only carry the FidoNet.NA echoes, which means that every net that goes
that route will lose access to CDROM (as well as about 12 other echoes). Can
you see about getting an .NA listing (your NEC or REC can help you there..) so
we don't lose you?
Rick
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4459
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/01/93 12:10a
Subj: Natnl Telephone Director Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>LG>7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely
GP>LG>indexed- NOT the sho
GP>LG>2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
GP>I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
GP>7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
GP>discs instead of just two! (The only thing I've found patently wrong is
GP>that a lot of the business entries are missing the city name from their
GP>listing).
The seven disc set is divided by region. Six regions for the country.
North East, Mid Atlantic, Mid West, South, West, Pacific
plus the Business Edition
If you wanted to search for a given name over the whole country, you
will have to swap discs. If you want a particular state, no problem,
except for the missing data.
I can NOT recommend this set to anyone who has a serious need for the
information this set should be accurate about, but isn't.
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4460
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 11:49p
Subj: Soundblaster Cd-Rom Driv Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KE>does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one
KE>card? I have 3 alder Hitachi's that are finially giving up
Daisy chain up to four. Drive 0 can even be a 522.
___
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 4461
To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Date: 09/29/93 9:27p
Subj: Night owls Refer: NONE
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CS>You'll find a few, but much better than their contemporary disks. I haven't
>at my 2 or 4 in ages, but 5,6,7,8, and 9 are all in continuos use on my BBS
>I figure less than 2% across the series, less than 1% if you omit version up
CS>Some disks which compliment the Night Owl with very little duplication are G
>and the Pier Series.
Check the 'complementing' stats again.. Pier 2 Has 19-20% (close to
150 megs!) of files that are also on Night Owls9
...tim klan
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* Origin: Tim's BBS * Erie, PA * 814-825-1731 * (1:2601/566)
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 4462
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/29/93 9:30p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
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DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Yeppers, I've got that disk for $25 if interested call bbs in tagline or
(814)825-2283 eves..
...tim klan
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4463
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/01/93 7:43p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
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DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or do i have
to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
Ernest
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4464
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/01/93 7:48p
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SD> Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
Will that allow two Mitsumi's on one card or do i have to get a card for each
cd-rom drive.
Ernest
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From: TERRI SATCHELL Number: 4465
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/01/93 12:30a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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* In a message originally to Adrian Salas, Quinn Larkin said:
> >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
> >mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
PLEASE add me to you list also
Mail to:
Terri Satchell
P.O. BOX 510296
St. Louis, MO.
63151
Thank you.
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From: PAT RILEY Number: 4466
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 10/01/93 11:49a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
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AM**Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
**up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
**another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
**16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
**tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I'v
**seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
**What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
490 Ms Access time.
I sell em, but not very many.
Sorry to bear painful news.
* QMPro 1.50 41-2633 * Adult: Stopped growing at the ends, but not the middle.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 4467
To: NIEL EYDE Date: 09/24/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Niel Eyde <=-
PR> Hello Niel!
PR> 22 Sep 93, Niel Eyde writes to All:
NE> For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
NE> Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
NE> drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
NE> CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
NE> although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way
PR> have
NE> to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
NE> in within a couple of days.
PR> Sure isn't like that here in Texas! (Checked it out today, they
PR> thought I was nuts)
PR> Pat
PR> -!- GoldED 2.40
PR> ! Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
IN fl I TRYED A r.s. THAY TRYED to sell me a cdr-1100 for 299.00
and th